Re: Spamcop mail

Petzl wrote...

> SpamCop email sets-up the reporting so it'sVery Easy Reporting (VER) used 
> (not a afterthought) Just a click of a mouse has all spam in your bulk 
> folder selected and reported This ofeten stops the hole that spammer is 
> crawling through


> Other pluses are that SpamCop allow efficient whitelisting which is 
> missing in Tuffmail?

"Any user configured restrictions, can be bypasssed with a user controlled
Allow list entry for the full envelope sender address, the envelope sender
domain, the client IP address, or a CIDR network."

http://www.tuffmail.com/fixed-policy.php


SpamCop FAQ : SpamCop Mail Service : FAQ about the Personal Blacklist
and Whitelist : What headers are checked? The following headers are
checked against the whitelist
Envelope Sender aka Return Path
From:
Sender:

http://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/303.html


> The methods of tuffmail sorting spam will mean a very high false positive

Evidence, please.

> without whitelisting with a lot of legitimate email blended in with spam. 
> SpamCop email also use spamassasin but with the very much needed and 
> unique whitelist of one's own creation (not only email addresses but 
> domains and even countries)

"Tuffmail spam scoring is based on the SpamAssassin(tm) Open Source 
software.
Scoring may be enabled or disabled and score thresholds set for an address,
for a domain, or for the account. Allow/Deny lists can be created for an
individual address, for a domain, or for the account."

http://www.tuffmail.com/filter.php

> Also they do not use the best and most accurate of Blocklists our very own 
> SCBL which lists spammers as they try to send sam not aterwards and 
> releasing that IP when spam stops.

SCBL is part of the Spamassassin scoring and can be given a high weight
if you wish.  Search on "BL_SPAMCOP_NET" at 
http://www.tuffmail.com/scores.php

> Other blocklists used by tuffmail just add to lists removal from lists is 
> nt that effiecient

I realize that humans tend to have a certain amount of "brand loyalty" and 
can
get quite upset with any discussion that hints at their favorite software /
servbice / sports team / nation / etc. not being perfect, but you are no 
only
claiming that spamcop is the best possible mail service but also that the 
SCBL
is the best possible DNSBL.  Different DNSBLs have different goals and 
purposes.

> And yes SpamCop email has even more to offer than is said here

Like the inability to block an IP address?  Or to generate a new email 
address
for every webform you fill out?  Or to graylist?  Or to use "-" on those
brain-dead systems that won't let you put "+" in your email address?  Or to
set the MX records for your domain to point to spamcop-provided relay 
servers?

As I said, Spamcop email is a fine system - better than most.  It is the one
I use.