Re: BlueSecurity/Blue Frog

"Vanguard" <[email protected]> wrote in message 
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> Say BlueSecurity (BS) does what they claim to do.  That is, say BS' 
> function is to actually automate the process of submitting opt-out 
> requests from its users to the source of a spam mail (or any undesirable 
> mailing that provides for opt-out).  That means users of BS must

My dear good Vanguard (please insert whatever title you want here) do you 
think you could sum up your previous two posts in 100 words or less, and 
still convey your meaning?

>From what I can see, BS is simply a company that decided to try a unique 
approach to getting people off spammer's lists.  Whether or not it is the 
RIGHT approach is still up for debate, as your rather verbose posts seem to 
indicate.

I wonder how things would have gone if BS had redirected their DOS attack to 
somewhere blatantly illegal, like fbi.gov - as far as any of the posts on 
the incident itself can tell, it seems to have been some cooperative attempt 
between BS and the domain owner of the blog to stem the attacks that 
resulted in both BS and the blog site being temporarily inaccessible.

As far as we know, BS and the blog site owner were cooperating in trying to 
stem the attacks, and nobody seems to have picked up on that fact.  The fact 
that they went and took out two sites instead of one is really bad, I don't 
see where their reporting methods are bad, in fact, to look at it from a SC 
point of view, ISPs consider SC bad because they wind up on blocklists.  Now 
the spammer knows just how those ISPs feel, thanks to BS.

As to the spammers themselves I would imagine they have an entire machine 
dedicated to simply throwing away invalid form data, it would be quite 
time-consuming to handle manually.  I reckon they could easily program 
trainable software to look for invalid data and throw it away, after all, 
they made the botnets and they made the program that scrapes email addresses 
off the internet.


Cheers ...

Geoffrey Hyde