Re: Blue Frog calls it quits?
"Vanguard" <[email protected]> Wed, 17 May 2006 22:25:00 -0500
| Newsgroups | gmane.mail.spam.spamcop.user |
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| Organization | SpamCop |
| Message-ID | <[email protected]> |
"Jesse Hathaway" <holy_saiyan1@2+2=5.REMOVE.MATH.EQUATION.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:[email protected]... > Inaccurate, but a common misconception. The ratio of number of > opt-out messages posted on the spamvertised website to the number of > received spam messages spamvertising said website was STRICTLY 1:1. Sounds super great as they were claiming to provide an automated opt-out process (because the BS users were too damn lazy to do the opt-outs themselves) and maybe they really only did sent at a 1:1 ratio but WHEN they sent was at issue. They didn't send all those reports from BS users at the time the BS users reported the spam. They stored them up so they could slam the targeted site all at once. After all, if opt-outs had worked before then BS wouldn't even be needed - but it didn't work. The site getting opt-outs from individual users when they got the spam mail didn't hurt those sites (or cause any collateral damage). However, BS stored up all the reports so their volume would accrue to a threshold that became sufficient to become a DOS attack. Of course, it wasn't just a DOS attack. It was a DDOS attack by BS using all their users to distribute the attack from the zombied hosts so the attack would hide that BS initiated it. BS was *not* providing an automated opt-out service as they claimed. They were pending up all those reports until they had enough to slam a site and they used the distributed DOS method by using their zombied users' hosts. Yes, BS might have been sending one opt-out from one report from a BS user but BS did not send those opt-outs at the same rate that they received the reports. A creek doesn't damage the surrounding residential properties but damming it up so a huge reservoir builds up and then suddenly releasing it becomes a flood that will harm the targeted property (along with other properties). Trickling out the opt-outs at the same rate that the spam reports came in would have no more effect than the users themselves submitting the opt-out requests. The rate of opt-outs sent by individual users receiving spam has not worked in the past. Then BS came out with a "tool" to help users send those opt-outs but if the opt-outs impinged the targeted site at the same rate as before then BS would be an ineffective solution. The trickle of opt-outs hasn't worked before and trickling them out through BS won't work any better. Pending up the trickle to then blast it out all at once would be the only way that the opt-out flood could effectively DDoS the targeted site. Amazing how many BS users bought into the scheme to have their hosts running as zombies in a DDOS attack. Most users expend effort using anti-virus and anti-malware products to prevent their hosts from becoming zombie slave hosts.