Re: Inline image spams
Darxus-5+gNnNaL/BD/[email protected] Wed, 20 Dec 2006 07:41:11 -0500
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On 12/20, Jem wrote: > images. Might normal (non-spammer) people elsewhere put inline images into > emails? I just don't know enough about this. Yes. > Glad you point that out, this is true. I certainly would not worry about > such a proposed change, the only way it could cause a false positive would > be a totally new contact deciding to send me images in the email. But > generally we call those spammers, so ... yeah I like the idea. I'd rather have the false positives from email from a new legit sender result in a bounce (error message back) to that legit sender from my postfix body_checks instead of ending up in a folder full of spam that's never checked: http://www.chaosreigns.com/spam/#image > very tempted to try writing a simple bitmap-image analysis library that > could quantify some aspect of an image. An easy one would be edge or line > detection which should differentiate between an image heavy in regular > shapes like text, versus a photographic image. You belong on this list: http://lists.own-hero.net/mailman/listinfo/devel-spam They are actively developing similar things, in addition to having some success using OCR. > Of course this would push the spammers to start creating fuzzy text and > other unusual graphics, which honestly would bring me a bit of pleasure They're already doing it. And I think your expectation that it will result in fewer people paying attention to them as a result is incorrect. They're taking advantage of their need to obfuscate the text to make it look more... festive. I'm actually impressed at how well the OCR folks are handling it, but I don't think it's really feasible to keep production level OCR based image spam filtering ahead of the spammers. > It would be exciting to have something like that which could become a score > input to spamprobe or other software. I've done image analysis before in > computer vision courses but it was all with Matlab, have never coded it in > C before. But in principle this could be quite simple, iterative, linear. I continue to be convinced that the only solution to image spam is to block all emails with inlined attached images, rejecting them before the end of the initial SMTP session so that the sender is the one to send any bounce messages, so spammers don't send bounces (backscatter) and legit senders do get an error message. However, I would like to be proved wrong. Get to it :) -- "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - Henry Louis Mencken (1880-1956) http://www.ChaosReigns.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV