Re: train-good and train-spam; cron error

email deliveries still go through, but they don't get the spamprobe
header (that's how i know something is wrong usually, there's a lot of
spam in my box :)

On Sat, 2004-12-11 at 14:21, David A. Lee wrote:
> I think what happens in this case is Sendmail gets blocked.  I've had this happen when one account
> had an error which held up a dozen spamprobes ... then all email deliver would get blocked up.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > just chipping in for the record,
> > 
> > on my server i still have some accounts that uses BDB (~30) and some
> > that uses PBL. once in a while one process gets stuck (im assuming on
> > the lock) that causes a buildup of processes for that account and
> > eventually spamprobe doesn't work for ANY account (including the PBL
> > ones)
> > 
> > i can't explain it, but that's just a gotcha to be aware of if you have
> > multiple accounts with BDB databases on the same server (i've never seen
> > that problem with PBL, and there's a lot more of them)
> > 
> > note that i'm NOT using a shared database (-D) and i'm still using
> > spamprobe 0.9b (for BDB) and 0.9e (for PBL) 
> > 
> > On Fri, 2004-12-10 at 13:17, Brian Burton wrote:
> > > John Chandler wrote:
> > > >     The documentation still recommends using "good" and "spam" 
> > > >     for the initial training and for later corrrective training.
> > > 
> > > If you use train for incoming email then you should use train-good and 
> > > train-spam for corrections.  Using the good/spam commands would not hurt 
> > > anything but could increase database size.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >     Would the use of "train-good" or "train-spam"
> > > >     in initially training spamprobe 
> > > >     or in later corrective sessions be appropriate,
> > > >     in order better to control the size of the database?
> > > 
> > > Once 1.1 is finished (needs documentation changes prior to release) the 
> > > proper way to build an initial database will be the auto-train command. 
> > >   Until then I recomment using the good and spam commands.
> > > 
> > > auto-train will do its best to minimize the database size during 
> > > training and will train on your saved hams and spams in a balanced way 
> > > that should improve starting accuracy.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >     If not, could "train-good" and "train-spam" perhaps be used 
> > > >     for just the latter part of the initial training?
> > > >     (That is, train on one small "good" file and one small "spam" file,
> > > >     then switch to "train-good" and "train-spam" and train some more.)
> > > 
> > > As long as you mix up your mail using train-good and train-spam would be 
> > > fine.  By that I mean if you just have two buge files (mail.good and 
> > > mail.spam) then using train-good and train-spam will give poor accuracy 
> > > to start but if you have 5 or 6 ham files and 5 or 6 spam files then 
> > > training with train-good and train-spam should work well if you 
> > > alternate them (i.e. train one on good file, then one spam file, repeat)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > 2)  My cron job ran fine for seven months,
> > > >     but recently it has given the following error in every run.
> > > 
> > > Your sp_words file is corrupt.  If you retrain and see the exact same 
> > > error then maybe you have an email that is crashing SP?  If that's the 
> > > case and it's reproducible then let me know and I can try to fix the bug.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >     We are running spamprobe 1.0 on Solaris 9.
> > > >     Any suggestions of things to try?
> > > 
> > > Build a new sp_words file and run db_verify on it to see if it's 
> > > corrupted immediately after the rebuild.  If it is then we'd want to 
> > > know what's causing that to happen.  Note that BDB is vulnerable to 
> > > problems if you ^C during an update.
> > > 
> > > You might want to give the latest 1.1x release a try.  It's very stable 
> > > and has 1.0's features but a better (I think) parser than 1.0.  It also 
> > > has some improvements that try to clean up the database more cleanly in 
> > > the event of improper termination of SP during an update.
> > > 
> > > If possible switching to PBL would be a good idea.  PBL seems to be much 
> > > more robust than berkeley db.  I'm thinking of adding QDBM support over 
> > > the holiday to see if it's a reasonable alternative to PBL and BDB.
> > > 
> > > All the best,
> > > ++Brian
> > > 
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