Re: Yahoo mail and Gmail policy explanation?
Shane Rush <[email protected]>
| Newsgroups | gmane.mail.spam.spf.discuss |
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Hello Martin, MJ> The fundamental question I'm trying to get at is: MJ> Should I bother setting up and maintaining SPF records if my domains are not MJ> currently suffering from any forged identity problems? Before answering your question it's important to make clear is that SPF is all about protecting a Domain's email Sending reputation & thereby reducing forging of a Domain's email. A Domain owner is able to state with a choice of granularity which mail servers are permitted to send authorised mail. A Receiver can read a Sending Domain SPF records in DNS to aid rejection of non-authorised mail servers which likely will be spam. If valid mail is sent via non-authorised mail servers a tight Sender SPF record statement will say to a Receiver "Please feel free to reject this email without further checks." It follows that any reduction of spam is a side effect of using SPF by making it easier to identify forged identity email. Spammers using slack SPF statements for their own domains will have a slack reputation for those domains & have spam detected as usual by other methods. A spammer using a tight SPF record statement makes it easier for a Receiver to reject spammer Domain email via blocklists. Answering your question: Yes you should protect your domains against forged identity problems before they occur. This is about saving damage to your Domain's reputation & mailserver downtime particularly in a commercial context. You do not want to be tagged as sending spam! Forged identity can create massive load on servers from Receiver rejection emails interfering with legitimate email. Setting SPF records after identity spoofing starts is too late, a Domain will be quickly widely blocklisted by both specialist and local Receiver blocking filters. Once blocklisted it may take weeks to restore Domain reputation and get unblocked. Many well known specialist centralised blocklists require manual requests via webpage or other hoops including enforced delay of 7 days or more before a blocklisted server retest or blocklist reset. MJ> I would do it happily MJ> if it contributed to the internet community's fight against spam, but unless MJ> major email service providers close the fake domain loophole, there doesn't MJ> seem to be any point. I don't see a problem choosing to use SPF with your Domains. As above SPF helps fight Domain forged identity, any spam reduction is just a side effect. The more Domain Senders & Receivers use SPF, the more spammers will find Domain forged identity less useful and use their own domains which may be spam blocked by other methods such as automated centralised blocklists. Re loophole: Are the email service providers filtering fake domain emails identified as spam ? If Domain forged identity emails are being observed not being rejected causing agro perhaps you should consider POP3 collection & a separate filter, http://keir.net/k9.html works fine and uses external IP blocklists. I feel it would be wrong to assume SPF & other reputation methods are not being used to detect forged identity & non-authorised Domain servers when scoring for email filtering. It's not clear to me if scoring is used for statistics alone or if a level of scoring is set that triggers a level of forged identity email rejection. I'd be surprised if forged domain email identified as spam is getting past the filters. Forged domain emails rejected as spam by the email provider should be passed to IP blocklists but not Domain blocklists. Likewise the service provider should be using advanced outbound Sender email filters in order to try and identify outgoing spam from their own servers. -- Best regards, Shane mailto:[email protected]