Re: SPF and bouncing
Michael Deutschmann <[email protected]> Sat, 5 May 2012 18:17:19 -0700 (PDT)
| Newsgroups | gmane.mail.spam.spf.discuss |
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On Sat, 5 May 2012, Alessandro Veseley wrote: > > Because the HELO name can be anything, so arranging for an SPF HELO > > pass is trivial. > > You must mean address literals, which are mostly used by MUAs AFAIK. No, it has nothing to do with [] in addresses. The problem is that the HELO domain is of no use in determining if an incoming MAIL FROM: <> has anything to do with a message you actually sent in the past month. gmail.com's MXes and smarthosts are kept within the domain of their corporate sponsor, google.com. If gmail.com were ever to issue a bounce, it would likely bear a HELO ending in .google.com. So a naive algorithm that said "let a purported bounce through if the HELO is SPF-approved and is equal to or a subdomain of any domain we have mailed to in the past month" would fail badly for at least one major site. Drop the "is equal to or a subdomain" requirement, and any spammer who wants to exploit the <> loophole will do so using a HELO domain that he fully owns. Then it's trivial for him to engineer a genuine SPF Pass. Thus, for spam control purposes it is best to ignore the HELO (aside from certain idiot filters), and treat all <> mail as effectively SPF-neutral. ---- Michael Deutschmann <[email protected]>