Re: DMARC?

Scott Kitterman <[email protected]> Tue, 07 Aug 2012 13:51:24 -0400
Newsgroups gmane.mail.spam.spf.discuss
Message-ID <5358120.88Z2ixs0jL@scott-latitude-e6320>
On Tuesday, August 07, 2012 12:46:21 PM Don Lee wrote:
> >On Tuesday, August 07, 2012 01:05:10 PM Dotzero wrote:
> >> On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Don Lee
> >> 
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > Anyone know about this:
> >> > 
> >> > http://www.dmarc.org/
> >> > 
> >> > I've spent about 10 minutes looking into it, and it looks like a
> >> > worthwhile
> >> > effort.  Other opinions?
> >> > 
> >> > -dgl-
> >> 
> >> I'm one of the participants in dmarc.org (I beleive there are some
> >> others who are lurking here as well. The effort basically came out of
> >> the experience that a handful of senders and large mailbox providers
> >> has doing something similar through private channels. The policy
> >> assertion piece may not be for all senders but the reporting part
> >> allows visiblity into auth failures where there didn't use to be any
> >> visibility. For validators/receivers it is useful but not as usefulas
> >> when there is greater adoption by senders. By combining the use of SPF
> >> and DKIM you reduce false positives.
> >
> >I agree, with the slight caveat that the way the DMARC spec is written now,
> >it says that a DMARC policy record should override other policies, so if I
> >publish a DMARC record to get feedback, I'm at the same time telling
> >receivers not to take a policy action based on SPF fail.  This is a
> >problem that I think will be addressed, but it hasn't been yet.
> >
> >Scott K
> 
> My brief reading is that it is a complementary, and helpful standard, not
> one that is generally in conflict with SPF (or DKIM).
> 
> SPF, DKIM, and other proposals seems to me to have been looking
> for a "silver bullet" and have turned out to need broader support from
> various stakeholders.
> 
> It looks to me like DMARC is part of that helpful, cooperative evolution,
> and will help everyone adopt and deploy these technologies.

I agree.  

It is, however, a relatively young concept and there's still work to be done 
to mature it.

Scott K