Re: SPF Record Issue

alan <[email protected]> Tue, 10 Sep 2013 12:18:41 +0100
Newsgroups gmane.mail.spam.spf.discuss
Message-ID <[email protected]>
At 01:04 10/09/2013  Tuesday, you wrote:
>On 09/09/2013 07:22 PM, Roman Gelfand wrote:
>>thanks for all the help.  I still have a couple of questions...
>>
>>1.  Can you have more than 1 spf txt records for a domain?
>Absolutely not.
>>2.  What does putting host name before v=spf1 do for us?  is that
>>somehow used in conjunction with helo?  Can you have multiple host
>>names separated by spaces before v=spf1?
>That is the syntax used by the BIND family of DNS servers used to indicate which domain the record is for.  The syntax used by your DNS server may vary.  The BIND syntax is the canonical syntax used for discussing DNS records via email.  You should learn it.
>
>>3.  I am not quite sure what you mean by ...
>>if they are the same machine then you should investigate and compile a
>>list of all its ips so that you can pass the common (does helo ==
>>ip-in-A-of-helo test many receivers perform to weed out bots)
>>could you give an example.
>Suppose the mail server uses mail1.example.com as its HELO name, and has IPs 192.0.2.1 and 198.51.100.3  (is on two different ISPs). Then the HELO SPF record could be
>
>mail1.example.com IN TXT "v=spf1 ip4:192.0.2.1 ip4:198.51.100.3 -all"
>
>Or possibly:
>
>mail1.example.com IN TXT "v=spf1 a -all"
>                                   IN A 192.0.2.1
>                                   IN A 198.51.100.3


or to put it another way every hostname IS a domain (in dns terms)

thus in my case the SPF for my example domain (below)
as my real SPF records are to complex/experimental and the domains are to

but feel free to actually check the real domains alandoherty.net and alan.gothic.ie and the provider domain orionnetworks.ie that the servers are part of

but basically their are 3 mailservers
and in this example i have given one 2 ips (all ips are my own so should not annoy anyone)
(but as all are well secured by automatons probing them may result in autoblacklisting)

example.com         IN A 193.120.238.106           ;my webserver/mailserver
                    IN MX 10 mx10.example.com      ;my mailservers answering/25 helo-id and TLS cert
                    IN MX 20 mx20.example.com   ;my other mailservers answering/25 helo-id and TLS cert
                    IN MX 20 mx30.example.com   ;my other mailservers answering/25 helo-id and TLS cert
         IN TXT "v=spf1 ip4:193.120.238.109 ip4:193.120.238.106 ip4:195.2.202.63 ip4:195.2.202.40 -all"
   IN TXT "spf2.0/mfrom ip4:193.120.238.109 ip4:193.120.238.106 ip4:195.2.202.63 ip4:195.2.202.40 -all"
     IN TXT "spf2.0/pra ip4:193.120.238.109 ip4:193.120.238.106 ip4:195.2.202.63 ip4:195.2.202.40 ?all"
                    ;last 2 lines just for the broken sender-id checkers to ensure they do not block mail via mailinglists

www.example.com          IN A 193.120.238.106           ;my webserver
                         IN MX 0 .                      ;explicitly states not ever legal user@xxx
                         IN TXT "v=spf1 -all"           ;explicitly states not ever legal to spf

some-desktop.example.com IN A 193.120.xx.xx             ;a machine
                         IN MX 0 .                      ;explicitly states not ever legal user@xxx
                         IN TXT "v=spf1 -all"           ;explicitly states not ever legal to spf

support.example.com      IN A 193.120.238.106           ;another website
                         IN MX 0 .                      ;explicitly states not ever legal user@xxx
                         IN TXT "v=spf1 -all"           ;explicitly states not ever legal to spf

smtps.example.com        IN A 193.120.238.106       ;my mailservers answering/587 helo-id and TLS cert
                         IN A 193.120.238.109       ;used by clients to send/relay mail outward
                         IN MX 0 .                      ;explicitly states not ever legal user@xxx
                         IN TXT "v=spf1 -all"           ;explicitly states not ever legal to spf

mx10.example.com         IN A 193.120.238.109           ;my mailserver incomming
                         IN MX 0 .                      ;explicitly states not ever legal user@xxx
                         IN TXT "v=spf1 -all"           ;explicitly states not ever legal to spf
     
mx20.example.com         IN A 193.120.238.106           ;my mailserver incomming
                         IN MX 0 .                      ;explicitly states not ever legal user@xxx
                         IN TXT "v=spf1 -all"           ;explicitly states not ever legal to spf

mx30.example.com         IN A 195.2.202.63              ;my mailserver incomming
                         IN A 195.2.202.40
                         IN MX 0 .                      ;explicitly states not ever legal user@xxx
                         IN TXT "v=spf1 -all"           ;explicitly states not ever legal to spf

host1.example.com        IN A 193.120.238.106           ;my PTR record
                         IN MX 0 .                      ;explicitly states not ever legal user@xxx
                         IN TXT "v=spf1 -all"           ;explicitly states not ever legal to spf

host2.example.com        IN A 193.120.238.109           ;my PTR record
                         IN MX 0 .                      ;explicitly states not ever legal user@xxx
                         IN TXT "v=spf1 -all"           ;explicitly states not ever legal to spf

host3.example.com        IN A 195.2.202.64              ;my PTR record
                         IN MX 0 .                      ;explicitly states not ever legal user@xxx
                         IN TXT "v=spf1 -all"           ;explicitly states not ever legal to spf

host3a.example.com       IN A 195.2.202.40              ;my PTR record
                         IN MX 0 .                      ;explicitly states not ever legal user@xxx
                         IN TXT "v=spf1 -all"           ;explicitly states not ever legal to spf


host1.mxout.example.com  IN A 193.120.238.106           ;my mailservers outgoing/sending helo-id and 
                                                        ;where postmaster@ messages come from
                         IN MX 10 mx10.example.com
                         IN MX 20 mx20.example.com
                   IN TXT "v=spf1 ip4:193.120.238.106 -all"    ;explicitly states IT IS legal to spf

host2.mxout.example.com  IN A 193.120.238.109           ;my mailservers outgoing/sending helo-id and 
                                                        ;where postmaster@ messages come from
                         IN MX 10 mx10.example.com
                         IN MX 20 mx20.example.com
                   IN TXT "v=spf1 ip4:193.120.238.109 -all"    ;explicitly states IT IS legal to spf

host3.mxout.example.com  IN A 195.2.202.63           ;my mailservers outgoing/sending helo-id and 
                         IN A 195.2.202.40              ;where postmaster@ messages come from
                         IN MX 10 mx10.example.com
                         IN MX 20 mx20.example.com
            IN TXT "v=spf1 ip4:195.2.202.63 ip4:195.2.202.40 -all"    ;explicitly states IT IS legal to spf

_client._smtp.host1.mxout.example.com           SRV     1 2 1 host1.mxout.example.com.
_client._smtp.host2.mxout.example.com           SRV     1 2 1 host2.mxout.example.com.
_client._smtp.host3.mxout.example.com           SRV     1 2 1 host3.mxout.example.com.

_client._smtp.example.com                       SRV     1 1 1 example.com.

;the _client._smtp lines authorised the three listed names to be used in helo and deauthorise any other using an old/unused protocol called csv, but as it costs nothing i still use it as it was well designed

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