Re: Spamcop Bullshit

Conrad <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.mail.spam.tmda.user
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Ive found the following things help out against spamcop:

- run a rbl check against major blacklists (think nagios) and apply 
to be removed asap. We usually request to be removed within 10 
minutes of being placed on a RBL.

- apply as many smtp-transaction checks as possible, including spf. 
Dk does not protect against joe-jobbed domains, but only at the 
individual email. A dk-protected domain can still validly send non-dk 
signed email.

- apply spamassissin and other internal checks - a SA score of 10 or 
more should NOT send out a confirm message. This is configured in 
tmda via "headers .... hold"

- apply a regex of common spam words - including misspellings and 
other things. We currently run a regex file of +/- 200 lines on all 
tmda-protected accounts, and do not send confirms for those messages 
(headers-file ... hold, body-file .. .hold). This catches most SA 
scored messages between 10 and 4, but allows for a valid sender to 
send a high SA scored message and get a confirmation request. Of 
course, there will be a resources hit with a regex file this big - 
but I feel its worth it.

- move outbound tmda messages to an IP you dont care about. We have a 
separate server we run exclusively for tmda-outbound messages. Use 
"mailtransport" and "smtphost" to configure these. This mail server 
is has a shorter default queue lifetime. The bad thing about this is 
that all tmda-related messages go this route - not just confirmationm 
requests. So your released messages and tmda-ofmipd messages will go 
out through the same IP. You could set this up as another instance of 
your favorite mail software on the same server on another IP, or a 
seperate server.

The point of the above is to remove the amount of backscatter tmda 
causes. Note that for all the above I recommend a hold instead of 
drop - as this way you can still see the incoming messages and 
release/adjust as necessary.

Using all of the above, we have mitigated our RBL risks. We still get 
on one from time to time, but every moment not on a blacklist helps!

Thanks.

At 09:11 AM 10/30/2006, Todd A. Jacobs wrote:
>On Mon, Oct 30, 2006 at 03:35:11PM +0100, Zeno Davatz wrote:
>
> > because TMDA sends out replys to dead end Spam-Traps of Spamcop.
>
>FWIW, SPF and domainkeys were designed specifically to prevent joe-jobs,
>but neither is widely adopted. YMMV.

--Photocon
Conrad Hunziker III
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