Re: ta_LK language pack for Squirrel mail

>> I am cc'ing some language team contacts I found looking around at the
>> status of Tamil translations in some other projects, hoping they might
>> be kind enough to offer some advice on why they chose "ta" without a
>> country code.  There are probably better places to ask, but I am not
>> aware of where...
>
>> >> > > For new translations, we are only using the language code unless
>> >> > > the
>> >> > > language is different in another country.  So, would "ta" work
>> >> > > instead
>> >> > > of "ta_LK"?
>> >> >
>> >> > Tamil is been used in Many countries including Sri Lanka (LK), India,
>> >> > Singapore, Malaysia...
>> >> > Though the written Tamil is same in all of these countries, there are
>> >> > differences in real usage.
>> >> > We are also doing Joomla, Moodle, Mozilla localizations and in all we
>> >> > are using ta_LK.
>> >> > Therefore I think it is appropriate to use 'ta_LK' rather 'ta'.
>> >>
>> >> I see, on the other hand, that KDE uses only "ta":
>> >>
>> >> http://l10n.kde.org/team-infos.php?teamcode=ta
>> >> http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/l10n-kde4/ta/
>> >>
>> >> Same with Debian:
>> >>
>> >> http://www.debian.org/international/l10n/po/ta
>> >>
>> >> And Fedora:
>> >>
>> >> http://translate.fedoraproject.org/languages/ta
>> >>
>> >> And Ubuntu:
>> >>
>> >> https://translations.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-ta
>> >>
>> >> I don't claim to be an expert on Tamil, or maybe my research is
>> >> flawed, but I'd like to keep our translations synchronized with the
>> >> rest of the world.
>> >
>> > Thing is, we do not touch in areas that you have listed and those will
>> > be
>> > huge works.
>>
>> As you can see from the links I provided above, much work has already
>> been done
>
> Very true!
>
>>
>> > Upto now what we were doing are (You can find the translations on the
>> > respective sites), Joomla!, Mozilla and Moodle and hoping to do Open
>> > Office
>> > soon.
>> >
>> > Of course, as I said before too, in written Tamil, you cant find any
>> > different in Sri Lankan Tamil, Indian Tamil, and other Tamil.
>> > Therefore if you really want you can define this as 'ta', No problem for
>> > us.
>>
>> Ultimately, unless someone who has more authoritative input, I will
>> use your advice to decide.  If the written language is the same, but
>> "usage" is different, how does that impact software?  What is meant by
>> "usage"?  Will the Tamil translation for SquirrelMail or any other
>> package be different for Tamil speakers in India?
>
> Paul, You know Glossary plays an important role in Localization.
>
> Though we have Tamil specking people in India (Tamil Nadu) and Sri Lanka,
> till 2000 both countries publishing their own glossaries. Then the scholars
> came into an agreement and they published a common IT glossary in 2000. But
> even in that glossary if you see, for a single word they have given two
> translations and they have specified as (த.வ) and (இ.வ). That means, Sri
> lankan usage and Indian (Tamil Nadu) usage. This differenenciation is there
> for lot of words in that combined IT glossary of Sri Lanka and India. We are
> basing on our localization mainly on this glossary.
> Also I need to point out here that, this IT glossary was prepared by 12
> indian (Tamil Nadu) scholars and 12 Sri Lankan scholars.
> :)
> Still we are happy with 'ta' as locale. But we recommend 'ta_LK'.

OK, unless we get any response from others, we'll go with ta_LK.  Can
you please make one change and re-send the squirrelmail.po?  Change
the translation for "sec_remove_eng.png" to "sec_remove_ta_LK.png".

Thanks!

> The glossary I was mentioning is published through 'Official Language
> Commission' in Sri Lanka and I have a copy of that. Unfortunatly that is not
> yet in Online. I have attached scan copies of cover page and an inside page
> for your reference.

I didn't see any attachment, but thank you.

>> > $languages['ta_LK']['NAME']    = 'Tamil';
>> > $languages['ta_LK']['CHARSET'] = 'utf-8';
>> > $languages['ta_LK']['LOCALE']  = array('ta_LK.UTF-8','ta_LK');
>> > $languages['ta']['ALIAS']      = 'ta_LK';
>> >
>> > This is what we had in our testing system. But if you would like to
>> > change
>> > ta_lk to ta, then these need to be changed accordingly. Please do that
>> > change if need.
>> >
>> > When we check this pack with version 1.5+  we also added 'ALTNAME' to
>> > the
>> > setup.php
>> > $languages['ta_LK']['ALTNAME'] = 'தமிழ்';
>> >
>> > Therefore you can use this too if need.
>>
>> I will, thanks.  The LOCALE will also probably have to be something like:
>>
>> $languages['ta_LK']['LOCALE']  =
>> array('ta_LK.UTF-8','ta_LK','ta.UTF-8','ta');
>>
>> Or, depending on whether or not we use "ta" or "ta_LK", it could also be:
>>
>> $languages['ta']['LOCALE']  =
>> array('ta.UTF-8','ta','ta_LK.UTF-8','ta_LK','ta_IN.UTF-8','ta_IN');

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