Re: Bengali Bangladesh (bn-BD) Translation of SquirrelMail

2009/3/13 Paul Lesniewski <[email protected]>

> On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Paul Lesniewski <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>> >> >> > Can someone please help to integrate Bengali Bangladesh
> >>> >> >> > translation?
> >>> >> >> > It
> >>> >> >> > can
> >>> >> >> > be found in the url below:
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >
> http://www.ankur.org.bd/downloads/l10n/squirrelmail/squirrelmail_bn_BD_13jan08.tar.bz2
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> Thanks so very much for your contribution!  Some questions/notes
> >>> >> >> follow:
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> The comment lines at the top of your squirrelmail.po file should
> >>> >> >> look
> >>> >> >> more like the Swedish one (for example).  Please have a look at
> it
> >>> >> >> in
> >>> >> >> sv_SE/LC_MESSAGES/squirrelmail.po and at least put the right
> >>> >> >> language
> >>> >> >> in.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Thanks for informing the issue. Now the language code is added.
> >>> >> > Please
> >>> >> > check:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Thank you.  Note that the word "LANGUAGE" at the very top of the
> file
> >>> >> should be replaced with the actual language name.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Also, please update the copyright to 2009.
> >>> >
> >>> > Now both "LANGUAGE" and copyright information is updated.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> http://www.ankur.org.bd/downloads/l10n/squirrelmail/squirrelmail_bn_BD_09mar09.tar.bz2
> >>>
> >>> Looks really good.  One thing left -- the string "sec_remove_eng.png"
> >>> in squirrelmail.po should be translated to "sec_remove_bn_BD".  Can
> >>> you please make this change?
> >>
> >> Done. Please check:
> >>
> http://www.ankur.org.bd/downloads/l10n/squirrelmail/squirrelmail_bn_BD_13mar09.tar.bz2
> >>
> >> Also I have updated the png file with red texts. :)
> >>
> http://www.ankur.org.bd/downloads/l10n/squirrelmail/sec_remove_bn_BD.png
> >
> > OK, looks good.
> >
> >>> >> And who should be listed as the official language maintainers?  I
> >>> >> don't see your name in the translation itself...?  I'd need names
> and
> >>> >> email addresses of the maintainers.
> >>> >
> >>> > Maintainer: Bengali (bn-BD)
> >>> > Name: Jamil Ahmed
> >>> > Email address: [email protected]
> >>>
> >>> OK.
> >>>
> >>> >> Finally, in your testing, what did you add to functions/i18n.php?
> >>> >> Here is an example for Latvian.  Please show what you used.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> $languages['lv_LV']['NAME']    = 'Latvian';
> >>> >> $languages['lv_LV']['ALTNAME'] = 'Latvi&#371;';
> >>> >> $languages['lv_LV']['CHARSET'] = 'utf-8';
> >>> >> $languages['lv_LV']['LOCALE'] = 'lv_LV.UTF-8';
> >>> >> $languages['lv']['ALIAS'] = 'lv_LV';
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Note that LOCALE can contain multiple preferences in case the first
> >>> >> isn't found, such as:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> $languages['sv_SE']['LOCALE']  = array('sv_SE.UTF-8','sv_SE');
> >>> >
> >>> > You can use the content of following file for "bn_BD":
> >>> >
> >>> > http://www.ankur.org.bd/downloads/l10n/squirrelmail/lang_info.txt
> >>>
> >>> That ALTNAME won't work.  Any 8-bit symbols must be HTML-encoded.
> >>
> >> Sorry, I have updated the file. Please check again.
> >
> > So "Bangla" is how you'd show "Bengali" to a native speaker reading
> > their webmail?  Just want to be sure.
> >
> > http://squirrelmail.org/docs/devel/devel-3.html#ss3.2
> >
> >>> As for whether or not "bn" should be aliased to "bn_IN" or "bn_ID",
> >>> I'm not certain.  Do more people use Bengali in Bangladesh or India?
> >>> India's population being what it is and that it's the second most
> >>> spoken language there, I'd guess the latter.  However, it's the first
> >>> official language of Bangladesh and your translation is much much more
> >>> thorough.  Do you have reasons for your opinion on this matter?
> >>
> >> According to http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=ben, 100M
> >> people of Bangladesh speak Bengali but only 70M in India, and Bengali is
> the
> >> official *national* language of Bangladesh.
> >
> > OK, I'm convinced.  :-)  Beside, your translation is many times more
> > complete than the bn_IN one.
> >
> >>> > Btw, in bn_IN's setup.php there is an alias for both "bn" and "bn_BD"
> >>> > which
> >>> > needs to be removed.
> >>> >
> >>> > $languages['bn_BD']['ALIAS'] = 'bn_IN';
> >>> > $languages['bn']['ALIAS'] = 'bn_IN';
> >>>
> >>> Yes, I'll remove the alias for "bn_BD", but per above, I'm not yet
> >>> sure who should get "bn".
> >>
> >> Also projects like OpenOffice.org and Debian-Installer use bn for bn-BD.
> >>
> >> Ref link for OOo:
> >> http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=50434
> >>
> >>> >> >> Regarding the language code, I want to confirm that Bengali in
> >>> >> >> Bangladesh is in fact different than in India?  We do already (as
> >>> >> >> you
> >>> >> >> probably know) have a bn_IN translation.  We are moving away from
> >>> >> >> including region codes in the language name in SquirrelMail if
> there
> >>> >> >> is no reason to have it, so if you object to having the India
> region
> >>> >> >> in the Bengali translation name, we can remove it.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Yes, there are differences on spellings, dialects and general
> terms
> >>> >> > usage.
> >>> >> > So we should keep the region codes.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Looking at what the rest of the free software world does, it looks
> >>> >> like many projects (e.g., KDE, Fedora) have a "bn_IN" translation
> and
> >>> >> a "bn" translation, although I do see that Debian also has a "bn_BD"
> >>> >> translation.  I am not an expert on Bengali, but I just want to make
> >>> >> sure we are synchronized with what everyone else is doing.
> >>> >
> >>> > Yes, initially we {Ankur, a team consist of Bangladeshi and Indian
> >>> > volunteers for Bengali localization} started with "bn" translation
> for
> >>> > GNOME, KDE, Fedora etc projects. After the translation reached into a
> >>> > good
> >>> > level, it was forked into "bn" and "bn_IN". Later we did not changed
> the
> >>> > "bn" translations into "bn_BD".
> >>>
> >>> Meaning you should have changed it from "bn" to "bn_BD"?
> >>
> >> Actually we thought/think, as Bengali is the *national* language of
> >> Bangladesh and the number of speaker is highest in Bangladesh, bn will
> go
> >> for bn_BD by default. :)
> >>
> >>> OK, it sounds like "bn_BD" is good for SquirrelMail.
> >>>
> >>> We're just about finished!
> >>>
> >>> Thanks again!
>
> Thanks very much for your contribution.  The bn_BD translation has now
> been added.  It is an alias for bn now, instead of bn_IN.  Please
> check it out of our repository here:
>
>
> http://squirrelmail.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/squirrelmail/trunk/locales/locale/bn_BD/
>
> Or wait a day and download a locales package snapshot from the very
> bottom of this page:
>
> http://squirrelmail.org/download.php
>
> And update your copy of functions/i18n.php if you are using 1.4.x from
> here:
>
>
> http://squirrelmail.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/squirrelmail/branches/SM-1_4-STABLE/squirrelmail/functions/
>
> And then test and make sure it works.
>
> Also, within a day, you should see the statistics for your translation
> here:
>
> http://l10n-stats.squirrelmail.org/HEAD/bn_BD/squirrelmail/index.php
>
>

Thanks a lot! :)


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