Re: Gmail 'less secure app access'
lmfrm <[email protected]> Thu, 10 Mar 2022 18:01:59 -0600
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> As others have said, 2FA is nothing more than an inconvenience > ultimately. Google only wants you to use their apps to access your > email. It really is time to look for an alternative (there are > plenty). > > For what it's worth, since about 2002, I've had all my mail forwarded > from a domain I own to an email provider. So when I decided to use > Gmail as little as possible a few years ago, I simply changed the > forwarding address at my domain registrar to the new email provider. > I'm amazed so few people do this. > > Regards, > > Simon I don't mean to swerve off-topic too much, so if this is TL;DR for you, no sweat, you may ignore (though I maintain ditching Google is part of the solution here)... Companies like Google and services like Gmail are like people with bad boundary issues. What if the post office said, "In order to use our service you must allow us to read all your mail letter by letter so we can profile you and serve you ads."? That includes privileged, confidential mail between attorneys, doctors, counselors, priests, etc., and all your personal thoughts within, which become THEIR PROPERTY. When I discovered Gmail was scanning my messages I was irate and couldn't believe anyone would continue using their service, at least if they realized the full implications of their conditions. It didn't matter that they were using for personalized ads (which I don't want anyway). They were accessing my personal information against my wishes, storing it in their server in a completely unaccountable way that I could not opt out of or contest, and getting around it by forcing me to agree to a legally binding contract by using their service. But if you're in a hurry, don't know how Big Data works, and have your skepticism module turned off, and you don't read it, assuming it's just a harmless e-mail service, then you get suckered in. In reality, YOU are THEIR product. You pay for their services with your privacy, and they are also falsely advertising "free" e-mail because money is not the only kind of cost; not to mention there are uncountable ways loss of privacy can potentially cost you money and ultimately be far more expensive than simply using a smaller competitor who charges a monthly fee! The biggest corporations tend to exploit their customers the worst. The Bank of Americas, The Amazons, The Googles, The Apples. Such business models are absolutely diabolical and disgusting and I hope enough people seriously wake up to literally starve such services to death. We really must pay attention to who is running the services we choose, their business model, their transparency features, and what their agendas are, and accept there is such thing as predatory corporations that of course, do not have our best interests in mind, are not required to by any laws, and profit plenty from everyone who either doesn't read the fine print or doesn't realize the full implications of the fine print (that are not at all included in the fine print!--requires digging around the web and talking to attorneys). Thankfully there are lots of companies and movements raising awareness to such issues and as Simon says there are plenty of alternatives by now. There may be some inconviences but they are worth it, and actually, over time, alternative services improve vastly, and you'll find you won't miss the old monopolies at all, like me. I ditched Windows 10 years ago, started using Linux which has had lots of problems, but it has gotten so great by now it blows Windows out of the water by far. It's also better than iOS/Apple. I'm in the process of ditching Android, which is difficult, but over the years I've found the solutions I needed to do so, and I'm getting there. It's definitely a burden having to search for deeply for other solutions and transitioning to them but I argue it's a necessity given what's at stake.