[sylpheed:36953] Re: Where to start de-googling

On 6/8/20 3:13 am, Celejar wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Aug 2020 11:26:59 +0100
> Steve O'Hara-Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 5 Aug 2020 18:53:28 +1000
>> Keith bainbridge <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Besides, I think if I
>>> change OS, why not to proper linux rather than a cleaned up fork of a
>>> commercialised fork of a fork (BSD chosen by both google and apple due
>>> to much easier copy right requirtements)?
>>
>> 	Android uses the Linux kernel and IOS uses Mach with some BSD.
>> There aren't many options for a phone OS. There was a Ubuntu based phone OS
>> but it was only ported to a handful of phones and tablets and had almost no
>> app support, I think it's dead now. Open source Android is not a cleaned up
> 
> Not quite dead yet:
> 
> https://ubports.com/
> https://ubuntu-touch.io/
> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/07/pine64-launches-postmarketos-edition-phones-and-new-upgraded-hardware/
> 
> But admittedly, not really usable on many modern phones.
> 
> And then there's:
> 
> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/09/purisms-librem-5-phone-starts-shipping-a-fully-open-gnulinux-phone/
> 
> But also, not something most people would really want to use as a real
> phone.
> 
> Celejar
> 

I discovered an issue with ubuntu the last time I tried it, where I 
asked it to install an app and it disregarded my request and installed a 
different version of the app, using a different package manager. If 
you're into debian, you'll understand the difference between dpkg and 
snap. The basics could well be OK. It's the fact that I only realised 
what had happened AFTER the event that upset me. It's probably 
documented somewhere in the fine print.   I'm not alone. The most 
popular buntu derivative disabled snap by default, to avoid this 'event'.


I'm told I sound like a nut case sometimes (often). I have a short fuse 
when systems think they 'know better'.  And at 72 I claim the right to 
have an opinion.



It's strange. I'll experiment LOTS with my laptop, but not my phone. The 
phone is virtually essential; and I know how easy it is to recover the 
laptop. (And I have had to more than once, not counting the time I 
blanked my hard drive in error.)


I am looking at the arstechnica links. And with the assurance that 
LineageOS is built from original code, I'll find an old phone to try it 
on.   I guess searching will find people who have installed it on 
specific phones.


Thanks for responding again.

All the best.


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Keith Bainbridge

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