Re: To ***SPAM*** or not to ***SPAM***

I'm not convinced at that 99.9% number.  I still routinely see a lot of
mixing of spam and ham between scores 0 and 4.  So I do go through the
web interface every 24-36 hours, mostly to mark the false-negatives as
spam and recover my (rare) false-positive out of the spam quarantine.

Granted, out of ~300-500 messages a day I usually get under 10 spam
false-negatives.  But those 10 are still sufficient that I want to go
through the interface to train maia/SA more.

Just my $0.02.

-derek

"Lawrence R. Mulder" <[email protected]> writes:

> You're defeating the value of maia by not setting to a more
> appropriate cutoff score.  ‎With some tlc and proper tuning there is
> little reason why maia shouldn't be 99.9% accurate for you which all
> but eliminates the need for you to check the web interface "all the
> time" and would also eliminate all this other stuff you do with
> email/spam processing. Each to their own, but I think your approach is
> outside the scope of what maia was designed to do for you.
>
> Thanks,
> -Larry
>
>
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>   Original Message
> From: Bob
> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:38 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Maia-users] To ***SPAM*** or not to ***SPAM***
>
>
> Maia, if I understand it correctly, doesn't run mail that is above the
> threshold for quarantine. I don't like checking the maia web page all
> the time, so I only send high scores for quarantine. The rest pass to
> me. That lets me set a much lower (2.7) threshold for mail. The result
> is that my Junk folder collects the stuff that has some chance of being
> valid mail. I've been doing this for years and it works.
>
> Bob
>
> On 5/28/2015 10:27 AM, Lawrence R. Mulder wrote:
>> Seems like a lot of extra steps when maia comes with scripts that
>> run quarantined email (which should be pristine, btw) through the
>> Bayes engine of spamassassin if you use the recommended cron jobs.‎
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Larry
>>
>>
>> ________________________________________________
>> Lawrence R. Mulder / RHCE, VTSP, SEC+
>> Vice President, InformAbility, Inc.
>> [email protected]
>> http://www.informability.com/about
>> http://www.facebook.com/InformAbility
>> Ph: 630-532-5941
>> Fx: 630-532-5955
>> ________________________________________________
>>    Original Message
>> From: Bob
>> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:09 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: [Maia-users] To ***SPAM*** or not to ***SPAM***
>>
>>
>> For years I have had spamassassin mark spam with the asterisks and the
>> word spam in the subject. I have a condition in sieve that catches this.
>> Of course, all the mail marked this way also have the header "spam=Yes"
>> which is also in my filter. Every night I have a script that takes all
>> the mail in spam folders (cur and new) and runs it through the learn
>> process for Bayes. The Bayes filter is smart enough not to use the same
>> mail twice. I just wonder if changing the subject line is hurting the
>> Bayes evaluation.
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bob
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