Re: Local mail on OS X

Mark Crocker <[email protected]> Tue, 15 Feb 2005 11:33:19 -0500
Newsgroups gmane.mail.zoe.general
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Sorry I haven't jumped in sooner, but I haven't been keeping up on my lis=
ts.  I was also waiting till I had a chance to try out 0.6.2 before respo=
nding because Rafa=EBl said he was going to fix a relevant bug ( https://=
sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=3D10096579).  I am a littl=
e reluctant to recommend my strategy since this bug is still in place and=
 complicates things a little.

On 2005-02-15 09:19, sammy ominsky wrote:

> On Feb 11, 2005, at 09:50, Zoe wrote:

>>> Ah, this will create a horrible cycle, as I forward every piece of=20
>>> mail to ZO=CB, which then pushes it along to SMTP server, and is=20
>>> redownloaded by my pop client, to be forwarded to ZO=CB, which then=20
>>> pushes it to my SMTP server, etc. ad nauseam.

>> You don't have to let ZO=CB forward your messages.

> So I was thinking about this over the weekend...

> As far as I can tell, it's not possible to have this work the way I wan=
t=20
> it to.  The biggest issue is that if I set a rule to redirect all=20
> messages to ZO=CB, the only way to get them there is by having ZO=CB se=
t as=20
> my SMTP server and *NOT* forward mail on to the external SMTP server. =20

> That's not a reasonable solution, IMO.

There's another strategy that works better for what you're trying to do.

My strategy, just like yours, involves reading email on my email client, =
directly from my ISP's mail POP server, deleting messages I don't really =
want to keep, and forwarding the rest to ZO=CB.  Since, ZO=CB wasn't desi=
gned to work this way, there are some tricks required to get this to work=
.

1. An extra account in your mail program that sends to ZO=CB with a '.imp=
ort' login:

   With version 0.4.6, ZO=CB added the 'mail as transport' feature that a=
llows you to send transport messages to ZO=CB that are not forwarded even=
 though the forwarding feature is turned on (See https://sourceforge.net/=
mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=3D5899975 and https://sourceforge.net/mail=
archive/message.php?msg_id=3D5932834).

   Just like turning forwarding on and off for each message, changing you=
r email account ZO=CB login between <yourusername> and <yourusername>.imp=
ort is impractical.  However, if you just add a second account with a log=
in of <yourusername>.import then you can simply send email to yourself fr=
om that account with messages that you want to keep included as attachmen=
ts (See https://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=3D10086244=
).  Of course you have to have a mailer that supports multiple accounts.

2. You need a bogus email server to connect to:

   ZO=CB forces you to specify a host to get your mail from even if you d=
on't want to.  You need a server that doesn't get any actual email for ZO=
=CB to connect to on each fetch cycle.
  =20
3. Turn on forwarding in ZO=CB.

   This allows messages sent from the <yourusername> account to be sent o=
n to your ISP and saved by ZO=CB even though transport container messages=
 sent from the other account don't get forwarded.


> I really like ZO=CB's functionality, if only I could find a way to=20
> configure it like this, it'd really be quite a wonderful app.

Try out what I've outlined above.  When I get a chance, I'll add a more c=
oncise description on the wiki (http://zoe.omara.ca).



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