Re: NPR fires Williams over Muslim fears » GetReligion

pcg <[email protected]>
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>> I'm growing a bit tired of hearing about how
>> we can't tar all Muslims with the same brush. No kidding. That much
>> should go without saying (with regard to *any* ethnic, religious, or
>> national group).
>
> Unfortunately, I think that it should be said.  There are just too many
> people right now who equate all Muslims with terrorists.

Well, at least we can agree that this opinion has no merit.

> The context of this whole episode was Bill O'Reilly saying "Muslims
> attacked us on 9/11" and the ladies of The View walking out until he
> clarified himself.  Even if you ignore all of the obvious discriminatory
> problems, If you keep telling people they are terrorists, they just might
> become one.

Muslims *did* attack us on 9/11, and their attacks were explicitly
motivated by their faith. Do you suggest we should attempt to solve
this problem without acknowledging the identity or motivation of the
attackers?

To do so does *not* incriminate every other Muslim on the planet.

>> But the war that has been declared on the West is an
>> explicitly holy war -- devised, funded, and carried out by
>> self-identified Muslims. This is a fact. Whether or not
>> friendly, peaceful Muslims endorse their actions is
>> immaterial to how we must respond.
>
> I disagree.  The fact that it is a tiny tiny minority of
> Muslims that support this holy war should mitigate
> our response to Muslims in general.

And how tiny is this minority, exactly? Not so tiny that it can't
incite cheering in the streets on 9/11. Not so tiny that it doesn't
include the leader of at least one major nation. If 1% of the world's
Muslim population support holy war, that's more than a
million-and-a-half people. It took less than 20 to kill 3,000 people
in a single day.

Let's be very clear who is besmirching the good names of the world's
peaceful Muslims. It is not I, nor the media, nor even the racist
jerkoff that simply dislikes people who are different than him. It's
the depraved, murderous bastards who keep killing innocent people in
the name of Allah. *This* is where our attention must be fixed, *this*
is who must be censured. Not those who express their concern about all
the bloodshed.

>> Our enemy isn't shy about their affiliations or
>> motivations (which, just to reiterate, are explicitly religious and
>> specifically Islamic).
>
> even MORE specifically, a backwoods extremist sect of Islam.

Extremist, yes. But not *that* backwoods.

> good thing I wasn't suggesting ignoring those
> facts either.  I was just pointing out that suggesting
> to people we should be afraid of people wearing
> arabic clothing is unproductive and inflammatory.
> Let's stick with what Williams said.

Yes, let's. Did he suggest that anyone *should* be afraid of people
dressed in Muslim garb?

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