RE: NPR fires Williams over Muslim fears ? GetReligion

"Karl" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.music.dadl.ot
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>> We must not pretend, for the sake of principle, that the next
>> terrorist attack might come from a group of indignant Scandinavians
>> or
>> vengeful Navahoe. Our enemy isn't shy about their affiliations or
>> motivations (which, just to reiterate, are explicitly religious and
>> specifically Islamic).
>>
>> **a point that many want to ignore for sure.  This is where Juan's
>> comment on
>> political correctness was right on the money.
>
> Sure, but the freedom to ignore political correctness doesn't grant
> one the right to make ignorant statements.
>
> **his statement was not ignorant.

It is ignorant.  There is nothing to be nervous about someone wearing
muslim clothing.

**and yet he is, which was his point.  He more than most understands class
distinctions, and yet he too admits he is human.  That is not ignorance.


>> **in McVeigh's example, he also did not claim to have blown up the
>> building
>> because of any faith.  The fact that Muslims do so and claim they
>> must do so in
>> the name of their faith is very relevant.
>
> But is the terrorists faith the same as the typical Muslim's faith?  I
> submit it is significantly different.
>
> **how?

In that the typical Muslim does not believe in a violent holy war
against America.

**Whole countries seem to...They march in the streets by the millions.


>> The Muslims we're fighting are part of a  well-funded,
>> highly-organized, internationally cooperative network. Their
>> sympathizers include powerful, influential politicians AND religious
>> leaders. It's not a handful of crazies, my friends, it's a
>> *movement,*
>> and a growing one. We ignore these facts at our peril.
>>
>> **I think that trying to pin them down is a bit hard.  Pamela Geller
>> will make
>> hay about how the radical islam element *is* the mainstream, but I
>> honestly
>> wonder.
>>
>> **I think a certain percent just goes along with it for survival.
>
> Probably.
>
> **how do we tell the difference?  The fact is that a lot of muslims
> express
> support. How do we pick out the ones who actually believe it?

By their actions, like always.


**then the millions we see marching and burning flags mean what?


Are you suggesting we kill them all and let God sort them out?


**oh sure, that's clearly what I said.  Not.

**I am saying that you are making an effort to underestimate the threat.  I
think that is just as irresponsible and dangerous as overestimating it.



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