Re: David Cross on Health Care

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Subject: Re: [DADL-OT] David Cross on Health Care

>> **and Cross knows they do not because...why?  Because Joel
>> Olstein isn't testifying before congress?
>
> As I said above, it doesn't take any special insight to observe that
> the Christian right hasn't thrown it's weight into figuring out how to
> make universal health care work.
>
> ***and ...so?

So... that's the answer to your question.

**as to whether the Christian right has jumped in this?  Yes.  They way they are
constantly attacked for being political, I find no outrage in attacking them for
NOT beign political


> First, whenever they do they get smacked for forcing Christian
> values and for separation of church and state.

And, gosh, it never seems to bother them, does it? They just keep on
fighting -- for *certain* issues.

**you can't have it both ways.

> And this STILL assumes that UHC
> actuall helps end suffering.

Again, nobody's talking about "ending suffering."

**Cross did.


> That's like saying "giving food to hungry people isn't the only way to
> end starvation." Of course it isn't, but it's a hell of a start,
> particularly to those who are dying of hunger.
>
> ***people are not dying of a lack of universal health care.

You cannot possibly believe this. I, personally, know two individuals
who've died for lack of health care coverage.

**details please. Were they entitled to hc they did not avail of?

> It may be a matter of theory for those with
> the resources, but it's a matter of life and
> death for those who don't.
>
> ***And those people still get care.

No, they don't.

**yes.  They do.  At least in Washington they do, the ER's cannot turn you away
regardless of you ability to pay.

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