Re: gaggin'

"Karl" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.music.dadl.ot
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>>>The former because she was such an enigma (and frequently
> insufferable), that I don't feel like she'd be missed.
>
> **yea, except that she served as a serious focal point for, you know,
> EVERYTHING.  And in Serenity, she was clearly the center of the movie.

>She wasn't the focal point of everything as far as the *characters*
were concerned, only as far as the plot was concerned.

No but she had critical implications for all of them.

>And now that
those plot mechanics have been more or less resolved, we could move on
to a new focal point. In fact, having her die at the end of the film
would have been a nice denouement for the character, and provided
endless amounts of angst for Simon, going forward.

Why would Simon have to stay if he had no River to protect?  Once she is dead he
is not on the run, he and Kaylee can retire to a world and he can be trauma
surgeon again.  River provided his entire motiviation.


> > Inara's a tougher choice, not so much because
> > I love her character, but because of her character's\
> > function (i.e., to provide a conscience and a
> > sexual conflict for Mal).
>
> Well sure, but damn she's cute.

>Eh, Kaylee's cuter. So is Zoe, for that matter.

Inara is far more beautiful then both.  :)


> And whats wrong with having someone who can
> keep Mal in check?

>Nothing at all, but that's a role Book could easily fill.

Except I don’t want to see Book bathing....

>Would have
provided some nice conflict, too. The sexual tension could be replaced
with tension between Book devotion and Mal's bitterness toward God.
That's a more interesting dynamic than sex anyway.

Sure, but book was so damn weak.  Heck half the plot of the pilot episode would
have been vanished if book wasn’t so bleeding heart.


> Book was in some ways one of the weakest characters

>Ohhh, how I disagree. He was certainly one of the most
*under-exploited* characters on the show, but he had a terrific
set-up. The mysterious back-story, the tension between his ass-kicking
capabilities

huh?  He had one scene where he was effective, the war stories episode.  In the
pilot and in Objects in space he got his butt kicked.


>and his religious devotion, his unique relationship to
Mal, the question of why he was flying in the first place, his
position as the only overtly moral character on the ship... he was
fascinating to me.

Yea, but as I said, he could provide all that in memory and flashback...


> Wash was comedy relief more than anything
> and only his marriage to Zoe really made him
> essential.

> I agree he was mostly comic-relief, but I enjoyed watching him far
more than Inara or River.

Oh he was a riot.  Made it hard to see Alan on Dollhouse.

Honestly what made Firefly so special, or at least one big element, was the
perfect and balance of the characters.  All that was missing was a smart mouthed
orphan, a mom figure and a much more reoccurring role of Safron.

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