Re: christian schools and doctrinal issues (was: Death penalty)

On Tue, 9 Nov 2010, Mike Findlay wrote:

> > (I remember reading about this when I read the book that A Cry in the 
> > Dark was based on; the blood left after the dingo took the baby was 
> > part of the evidence that people were pointing to).<
>
> Is that the book the Meryl Streep, "The Dingo Ate My Baby" movie is 
> based on?

Yeah, the book was originally called Evil Angels, I think, but the movie 
was called A Cry in the Dark.

> > Well, if he was an elderly widower (as most Orthodox believe), then he 
> > had already "had some" and his interest in Mary needn't have been 
> > sexual.<
>
> I've heard that theory too.  Does it account for an elderly widower 
> being up to the trip to Egyyt for the Census or the tradidion that Jesus 
> was a carpenter learning the trade from Joseph?  I don't think of an 
> elderly widower being much into either.

Hmmm.  Maybe "elderly" implies too much re: his age.  I just meant he was 
older and had already had other children by a previous wife.

Incidentally, the Bible never says that Jesus was a carpenter, strictly 
speaking.  There is a single verse -- in Mark, I think -- in which the 
people of Nazareth say that he was a "tekton", a Greek word that could 
apply to all sorts of manual labour; and there is at least one scholar who 
says the real meaning of the word, in that context, may be more social 
than descriptive, i.e. it was the peasants' way of belittling someone who 
was so poor that he didn't even own any of his own land, so he *had* to 
work on other people's property just to be able to support himself.

> It does fit with Joseph basically disappearing from the text at a 
> relatively young age for Jesus.  You would think he would have been 
> mentioned later one though whether he had died or not, even just noting 
> his death if that is what happened. 

Well, not necessarily.  There are all sorts of gaps in the text.  I mean, 
who is this Cleopas fellow who meets Jesus on the road to Emmaus after the 
Resurrection?  And who is the person traveling with Cleopas (for that 
matter, what is that second person's gender)?  The text doesn't say.  Or 
who are all those women at the crucifixion and/or entombing of Jesus? 
Some of those names we don't encounter anywhere else, yet obviously they 
meant something to *somebody* or they wouldn't be in the text.  Etc.

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