Re: [Bulk] Re: Death penalty

Mike Findlay <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.music.dadl.ot
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>> It also elliminates the chance the guy could find forgiveness from God in
>> this life.  This is a subject my dear wife has changed my mind on over the
>> years.<
>
> Another argument for keeping religion out of government and vice versa.

>Not contradicting you here, but not following, either. What's the argument?<

Before I answer, are you suggesting that the religious argument be used by 
society/the government in support of abolishing the death penalty?  


It wasn't so much an argument, (or just an admittedly very self serving one), as 
an observation that the forgiveness argument is a pretty blatant violation of 
the separation of church and state.


> But even from a religious perspective isn't it just as likely, if not moreso,
> that putting a guy on death row would get him thinking of repentance,
> forgiveness, the afterlife, etc.?  Its along the same lines as "there are no
> atheists in foxholes".


>I know, I know, it's not the *exactly* the same, you're not advocating
putting people on death row for the sole purpose of saving their
souls, but my point is that a threat of execution probably isn't the
most morally sound way to get people thinking about repentence -- and
it's certainly not a justification for "immoral homicide," if that is
indeed what the death penalty is.<

Um.... what do you call it when someone takes something you said and uses, 
(misuses), it to argue against a point you weren't making?  


I never claimed it was justification for the death penalty, and I think my 
objection to the injection of religion into the argument should have made that 
clear.  I was merely pointing out a flaw, or counter argument, to the religious 
argument.  


MIke F.

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