Re: Don't shoot messenger for revealing uncomfortable truths
"nicholas a. evans" <[email protected]>
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I bring up "the sex thing" because I'm curious why no other charges have yet been filed against him. What with him being such a horrible criminal and all, I'd think he would have been charged with a relevant crime by now. Perhaps it is because in the last major case our government tried to prosecute the publishers of leaked information, the Supreme Court sided with my over the top defense, 6-3. Perhaps it is because prosecuting WikiLeaks means also prosecuting several international newspapers, who are publishing most of the leaks before WikiLeaks does. A Congressional Research Service report stated that "there is ample statutory authority" for a prosecution. But it goes on to say: "...we are aware of no case in which a publisher of information obtained through unauthorized disclosure by a government employee has been prosecuted for publishing it. There may be First Amendment implications that would make such a prosecution difficult, not to mention political ramifications based on concerns about government censorship. To the extent that the investigation implicates any foreign nationals whose conduct occurred entirely overseas, any resulting prosecution may carry foreign policy implications related to the exercise of extraterritorial jurisdiction." Essentially, CRS found that a plausible reading of the Espionage Act, by itself, might find some grounds to charge Assange --but that precedent, the Constitution, and jurisdictional issues all weigh against a successful prosecution. So if my defense is over the top, at least I have the legal bits of it in common with 6 Supreme Court Justices and the Congressional Research Service. -- Nick On Dec 7, 2010 7:45 PM, "Karl" <[email protected]> wrote: > On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Karl <[email protected]> wrote: >> I doubt he will, but he certainly could, and he should be willing to >> stand for that belief. > > He clearly *is* standing for that belief. That doesn't mean he needs to > voluntarily and passively be imprisoned for crimes he hasn't committed, crimes > which are not acknowledged by the jurisdictions he lives and travels in, and > crimes which have been invented after the fact (i.e. Lieberman's attempt to add > some more provisions to our Espionage Act, in violation of the 1st amendment and > the Supreme Court's rulings on the same). > > **sorry, but he received stolen documents from a military person in violation of > security classifications. He has committed a crime, the least of which is > conspiracy and the only reason he will likely circumvent espionage is because he > is not a foreign agent, he is an individual. > > **your defense of him is a bit over the top. > > The for the only crime he has been charged with, which has nothing whatsoever to > do with the leaks, he voluntarily met with British police today and was arrested > without bail. > > **yes, and I am ignoring the whole sex thing, and cannot imagine why you bring > it up other than to distrtact. > > > > > -- > dadl-ot mailing list > http://mail.thehood.us/mailman/listinfo/dadl-ot_thehood.us > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.music.dadl.ot -- dadl-ot mailing list http://mail.thehood.us/mailman/listinfo/dadl-ot_thehood.us http://news.gmane.org/gmane.music.dadl.ot