Re: Focus on the policy, not Wikileaks

"Karl" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.music.dadl.ot
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david white <bulk@...> writes:
> > So in WW2, he would have defended a newspaper publishing the D day 
> > attack plans?
> > 
> > My point is that the statement is way too broad.  
> 
> Well you missed (or chose to ignore) his point entirely.  He is 
> questioning the *foreign policy* that supposedly justifies the *need* 
> for the spying and meddling our government engages in abroad as revealed by
the leaks.
 
I see that, but at the same time, part of me dismisses it as naive.  This is
where RP and I part ways.
 
Yes, we can all agree the world is a shitty place and it sucks that governments
are dirty and use such tactics.
 
But I think if I have to choose between having my government play nice all the
time and in turn be the world’s biggest patsy and victim, i would prefer my
government play the game on the same field as the others.
 
Like it or not, that is how ALL governments play the game now, and if we have a
choice of playing or being played, well....
 
 
> > You need to be able to look at what is leaked and determine the harm and 
> > danger the leak represents, and then determine if it is treason or not.
> 
> And who would be this arbiter?  The government?  But what if the government
> itself is corrupt (or maybe just has delusions of grandeur)? 
 
Yes, I know.  And that is why i am conflicted.  I think a certain measure of
accountability is served here.
 
But I am extremely reluctant to give this a whole hearted back slap when
depending on what they release the consequences could be grim.  I have close
friends still serving.  People like Assange do not give a rats ass about the
fact that my friends are serving honorably, they just want to hurt the US and
the military. 
 
Again, all the
> more reason to utilize any constitutional protections we can to insist on
> reducing the size and scope of the state.   Predictably, most of those in 
> government are trying to use this opportunity to seize and centralize more
> power... :(
 
please.  Like they have not used every other situation to do the same?
 
k

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