Re: Don't shoot messenger for revealing uncomfortable truths

"Karl" <[email protected]>
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Which the law suit is doing, so this is not a comparison to the wiki issue at
all.
 
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Lance McLain
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 3:22 PM
To: DADL (off topic)
Subject: Re: [DADL-OT] Don't shoot messenger for revealing uncomfortable truths
 
The point is that the government has abused it's need for secrecy to the point
of absurdity and it is time to bust it all wide open.  If there is minor
collateral damage, then so be it.  It is for the greater  good to keep
government power in check.
Also, the press is either an abysmal failure or else it has become just another
arm of state power.
either way...viva la internet!
 
regards,
-Lance
 
On Dec 8, 2010, at 4:44 PM, Karl wrote:



Wait, construction plans are a civil liberty?  Really?
 
Yes, I agree, keeping the plans hidden is stupid, but calling that a civil
liberty issue just seems like we are cheapening the concept more than it already
is.
 
You say “doing crap like this”, but I am failing to see a victim here.  This is
not thuggary, this is stupid bureaucracy.
 
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Lance McLain
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 2:16 PM
To: DADL (off topic)
Subject: Re: [DADL-OT] Don't shoot messenger for revealing uncomfortable truths
 
You know, when we have government doing crap like this with impunity...I think a
good dose of wikileaks is in order.
The government is supposed to be of the people, by the people, for the
people....but they sure don't want the people knowing what they are doing. Is
there nothing that the government can't claim needs to be secret?
 
regards,
-Lance
 
http://www.nj.com/news/local/index.ssf/2010/12/aclu_sues_state_for_keeping_hu.ht
ml
 
The American Civil Liberties Union has filed a lawsuit against the state after
it refused to release the construction plans for a barn used to store road salt,
on the basis that doing so would be a security risk.
[...]
Chiaffarano filed an OPRA request for the state's building plans, but was denied
her request as the state cited a 2002 executive order by Gov. James McGreevey.
The order, issued in the wake of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on the World
Trade Center and the Pentagon, allows the state to decline the release of public
records that would compromise the state's ability to "protect and defend the
state and its citizens against acts of sabotage or terrorism."
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