Re: Julian Assange Captured by World's Dating Police

You, and congress....

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Lance McLain
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 12:30 PM
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Subject: Re: [DADL-OT] Julian Assange Captured by World's Dating Police

You're entirely to reasonable in a crazy world Nick.  I've gone over to the
crazy side myself.

regards,
-Lance

On Dec 13, 2010, at 11:08 AM, nicholas a. evans wrote:

> On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 10:10 AM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Jill Filipovic put it well in response to Wolf:
>> In fact, it is totally possible to support the WikiLeaks project and
>> to think that the international response to Assange and the project
>> is thoroughly fucked up and to think we should withhold judgment on
>> whether or not Assange is actually a rapist and also to think that we
>> should withhold judgment on whether the women are lying, and to not
>> discredit the women involved, and to not create a hostile climate for
>> rape survivors, and to not play into every tired old stereotype about
>> women and rape.
>
> This sums up my thoughts on this particular issue rather well.
> Especially the bit about withholding judgement and how this is
> completely irrelevant to whether or not one supports the WikiLeaks
> project.
>
> A friend of mine also pointed out a Slate article at
> http://goo.gl/6ylTo, which has a few especially good bits:
>
> "I often caution people not to assume conspiracy when opportunism is
> what's likely in play."
>
> "It's possible both that Wikileaks is a necessary curative for
> government overreach and that its leader is out to serve his own ego
> needs above all."
>
> "... women who file rape charges can pretty much always expect to have
> their names dragged through the mud, unless they were "lucky" enough
> to be raped by someone of much lower social status who also jumped out
> of the bushes to rape them."
>
> "It seems to me the most surefooted grounds for outrage in this case
> is the way that Interpol is suddenly pretending they care about
> rounding up sex offenders who commit difficult-to-prove crimes that
> have minor punishments in the rare event someone is found guilty.
> Assange's guilt or innocence is irrelevant to that question, and
> there's no need to attack two women who we have no reason to believe
> are liars."
>
> We have not seen all of the evidence that will be brought before the
> Swedish courts for trial.  While I do not blame Assange for trying to
> avoid or delay extradition to Sweden, I think it's to his credit that
> he turned himself in as soon as a valid arrest warrant was issued.  I
> also cannot say with any certainty that his accusers are lying or that
> he is guilty.  I don't take the alleged CIA link very seriously; our
> government has acted more like thuggish gangsters than the
> sophisticated chess playing spooks that would be required to pull that
> off convincingly.
>
> I'm particularly pleased that WikiLeaks (and other organizations like
> OpenLeaks, Cryptome, etc) will thrive even if Assange is detained
> indefinitely.
>
> --
> Nick
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