Re: U.S. Tries to Build Case Against WikiLeaks Founder

"Karl" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.music.dadl.ot
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On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Karl <[email protected]> wrote:
> That's the word from people who have experienced it (e.g., Vietnam
> vets). I'm inclined to believe them.
>
> **I challenge that.  There were a lot of other brutal aspects to the
> treatment of POWs in Vietnam than just solitary confinement.

<< As Gawande documented: "A U.S. military study of almost a hundred and fifty
naval aviators returned from imprisonment in Vietnam . . .
reported that they found social isolation to be as torturous and agonizing as
any physical abuse they suffered."
>>

Hm.  Maybe.  I imagine the isolation they were in was much more harsh however as
they were in a foreign country and had no idea when their release would come.
Being a prisoner of a hostile country would seem to me to be more intense.

> Why are they treating Manning like
> that?
>
> **because he is in the army and he is in confinement awaiting trial?  
> This is not a special deal to punish him, this is standard treatment.

Hm.

**I had to escort a guy in base confinement,  he had to ask permission to walk
past lines on the floor...several of them just to get to the guard station.
This being maximum I am not really surprised at the descriptions.  And even for
all this, he is fed, he has a small amount of free time and he at least knows he
has a chance to prove himself at trial.


> **I don’t know how accurate that story is

Interesting update at the bottom:

<< I was contacted by Lt. Villiard, who claims there is one factual inaccuracy
in what I wrote:  specifically, he claims that Manning is not restricted from
accessing news or current events during the prescribed time he is permitted to
watch television.
>>

*One* factual inaccuracy? Ack...

**shrug.  Sorry that jail is a bit rough.  Maybe not breaking the law is a
better choice next time.

**Assange is what he is, I can at least understand him.  I have no sympathy for
a guy in the military who swears an oath and know the consequences.  The whistle
blower stuff is crap, there is a designated chain of command for that stuff that
has full protection, even congressional protection.  His defense is crap.

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