Re: Well done Lance
"Karl Swenson" <[email protected]>
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If there is a fire, and you know it, and do not alert people to that fact, couldn’t you be held liable for their injuries? Maybe not criminally, but civilly. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Findlay Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 2:23 PM To: DADL (off topic) Subject: Re: [DADL-OT] Well done Lance where is it a crime *not* to yell fire in a theater? Free speech must be absolute. If not you are at the whim of those defining it. Mike F. From: Karl Swenson <mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 3:26 PM To: 'DADL (off topic)' <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DADL-OT] Well done Lance Never forget that crying fire in a theater is fine when there is actually a fire, and in fact not doing so could be criminal. Free speech is not absolute either way, it needs context and details to define it. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Findlay Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 8:17 AM To: DADL (off topic) Subject: Re: [DADL-OT] Well done Lance Ah the age old question. That should be governed by civil liability not criminal. If you yell fire in a crowded theater and people take you seriously and someone gets injured then you should be subject to civil damages. But I don’t want the govt. picking and choosing what any of us can and can’t say. I realized there will always be a continuum of speech to action that must be defined, (bribery, blackmail, hits for hire as in this example - I question how serious that was as opposed to just frustrated venting), but the line should be drawn in a way that allows the most speech possible. Mike F. From: Lance McLain <mailto:lance-X3DuywwxauBWk0Htik3J/[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 10:22 PM To: DADL (off topic) <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DADL-OT] Well done Lance On Jan 14, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Mike Findlay wrote: I'll be honest that I haven't read it but I got the sense that these were only written or verbal threats. Being the free speech absolutist that I am that shouldn't be enough to get arrested. Speech without action shouldn't be a crime. Hmmm I suppose in some circumstances like bribery or blackmail implied action is enough. But I think you know what I mean. What about yelling Fire in a crowded theater? regards, -Lance _____ -- dadl-ot mailing list http://mail.thehood.us/mailman/listinfo/dadl-ot_thehood.us http://news.gmane.org/gmane.music.dadl.ot _____ -- dadl-ot mailing list http://mail.thehood.us/mailman/listinfo/dadl-ot_thehood.us http://news.gmane.org/gmane.music.dadl.ot -- dadl-ot mailing list http://mail.thehood.us/mailman/listinfo/dadl-ot_thehood.us http://news.gmane.org/gmane.music.dadl.ot