Re: BSG Finale
"Mike Findlay" <[email protected]>
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My wife and I are watching it. We are currently in Season 2.5. While there are spots of serious overwroughtness and tedious fixation on certain plot lines, it has been a fun ride so far. And it is well done - you forget you are watching a tv show at times and really get caught up in the world they have created. So will reading you spoilers really ruin the show or just give away the ending? For me those aren't necessarily the same thing. We are also re-watching Lost, mostly I'm watching it with my daughter. Having seen the whole thing already it is very obvious that they made that series up as they went along. Story lines starting that I know will have no continuity and characters/features introduced as one thing ending up as something completely different. Still a great series though. Mike F. -----Original Message----- From: pcg Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 10:28 AM To: DADL (off topic) Subject: [DADL-OT] BSG Finale Patience and I finished Battlestar Galactica this week, and I must say: despite the complaints and disgruntled rumblings I've heard from some corners of the internet, that was by the far the most intensely engaging television I've ever seen. The final half-season was like a ten-hour climax to the series, so relentlessly brutal and brave, I was breathless at the end of every episode. I can see a few nit-picks here and there with the finale, but nothing that detracts from my overall satisfaction with the resolution. For anyone who hasn't seen it, I can't recommend this show highly enough. It's not as warm and fuzzy as "Firefly," (which remains my favorite of the two), but I can certainly see why it was Joss' favorite show. Brilliant space opera from top to bottom. *** spoilers ensue from this point forward *** * * * gonna discuss some stuff you shouldn't read if you haven't watched the series * * * * * * * seriously, if you haven't seen the show, it's on Netflix in HD * * * * * Okay, so, the good stuff... 1) Starbuck was some kind of angel? Is that what we're meant to believe? I *loved* this. She was a character that I loved in the beginning, but after New Caprica, I began to hate her more with every passing episode. By the time she essentially pushed Kat to an unneccessary death, I was actively rooting for Starbuck to die. Then she *did* die, but I knew she was coming back (mostly because her picture is on the cover of seasons 4 and 4.5), so when she was resurrected, I thought perhaps she was coming back as a kinder, gentler soul, more at peace with herself. Not even. If anything, she was worse than ever. After she found her own body on Earth, I was so confused and had no idea how they were gonna wrap it all up -- and then they did it in the most unexpected way ever. Not a cylon, not the product of some time/space continuum loop (which is what I was fearing), and not tied to the story of Kobol at all; just a dead chick sent back as a messenger from God to help humanity finish it's long journey out of night. Got a problem with that? (Okay, so a lot of people apparently did, but I thought it was brilliant.) 2) Chief crushing Tory's neck might be the most pimp move I've ever seen on television. I loved Cally, and was pissed at the way they kind of trashed her character after she died. It had been so long since Tory blew her out of the airlock that I honestly thought that storyline was over, and everyone had forgotten about it and moved on. Then as soon as the Final Five stuck their hands in the goo and Chief started seeing flashes of what happened, I started to get chills of antici...pation. When he looked up at Tory with his face full of fury, I swear I literally jumped up off the sofa with a full-throated cry of vengeance and fist-pumped the air. God, I hated that bitch. :) 3) I know it caused a lot of anger among fans, but I was intrigued by the way Ron Moore and Co. turned the show in such an overtly religious direction. Six was babbling about God's plan from the very beginning, but I always expected that to be nothing more than an evil Cylon device to manipulate people. Sometime around the Temple of Athena it became clear that there was more to it, but the final season they really turned it on. It's so rare one sees religion treated in such a serious (reverent?) manner, particularly in the sci-fi genre. 4) They did a fantastic job of making the final season *feel* final. With the government structure falling apart, characters committing suicide, a devastating coup attempt that left the military in tatters, Adama turning into Tigh, Roslin losing her religion, and Galactica herself crumbling to pieces, they really sold the desperation and finality of it all. When Zarek had the entire quorum shot to death, I couldn't believe it. That was the moment I realized the writers were going balls out, and it was only going to get worse, not better. Things that made me sad: 1) Gaeta. I always like Gaeta, and I felt that he got screwed over by New Caprica more than anyone. It became clear that he was coming off the rails somewhere around the time that he tried to murder Baltar, but I never expected him to go so far off the deep end. I understand why Adama had him executed, but it still bummed me out. Up until the coup, he was never anything but loyal to humanity, and I wanted redemption for him. 2) Dee. Almost felt like the writers never quite knew what to do with her. They matched her up with Billy, then abandoned that and matched her up with Apollo, then abandoned that and she more or less disappeared in the final season. I didn't see her end coming *at all.* 3) Cally. :( 4) Lee's hair. If the show had been renewed for another season, I'm afraid his hair would have simply taken control of the fleet. Nit-picks: 1) I'm not much of a grudge-holder, but I did feel it was unreasonable to expect us to sympathize with the Cylons in the final season. I mean, in the pilot, Caprica Six MURDERED A BABY IN A STROLLER. I understand that the humans ended up making an alliance with the Cylons out of desperation, but... I dunno. These are the same robots who literally murdered *everyone* the humans knew and loved, and, by the way, never really expressed any remorse or offered any legitimate explanation for their actions. This was probably the biggest believability stretcher for me. 2) Cavil's sudden and unexplained suicide was a big "huh?" moment for me. He was such a sneaky, conniving, and bloodthirsty bastard, it seemed odd to me that in the space of two seconds he would give up and blow his own brains out. 3) Ellen being the final Cylon. Felt random to me, and sort of robbed her original death scene of it's considerable power. Things that really, really angered me: 1) Helo needed to die. I wanted someone to kill him. Gaeta, Starbuck, Adama, Athena, Apollo... anyone would have sufficed. I was very, very disappointed that he lived to see new Earth. Gaeta was executed for trying to stage a coup, meanwhile Helo consciously betrayed humanity and snuck behind everyone's back to save the lives of the killers who were hunting them -- and everyone more or less knew it. No consequences? Frak that guy. -- -pcg [email protected] -- dadl-ot mailing list http://mail.thehood.us/mailman/listinfo/dadl-ot_thehood.us http://news.gmane.org/gmane.music.dadl.ot -- dadl-ot mailing list http://mail.thehood.us/mailman/listinfo/dadl-ot_thehood.us http://news.gmane.org/gmane.music.dadl.ot