Re: Mr. Hannah Montana's Achy Broken Heart

"Karl D Swenson" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.music.dadl.ot
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> It doesn't seem to me like he presented himself as such. But I would 
> imagine there's a very real difference between navigating the waters 
> of fame as a responsible adult (which he seems to have done -- there 
> were never any scandals or booze or what-have-you, right?) and trying 
> to help your child navigate those waters themselves as they transition 
> from being dependent on you to being an independent celebrity. I'd 
> imagine that's a whole different set of challenges.
>
> **if he was so skilled at said navigation, then he should have known 
> the peril.

You've missed my point, which is that he was evidently skilled in a
completely *different* kind of navigation. This "Hannah Montana" thing was a
whole different ball of wax.

**And you missed mine, that it really wasn't.  And even if it had been, he
is still the parent who let this spin out.



> **maybe that was not his intent.  But when her show took off he seemed 
> happy to ride along.

Agreed, and as I concede, he could've and should've made better choices once
that train starting rumbling down the tracks. I take from that article that
he concedes the same thing, and wishes he *had* made better choices. I
sympathize with that kind of regret.

**In a sense I do too, but at the same time I also see this as kind of self
serving.

> Before "Hannah Montana," there *was* no Hannah Montana model. Since 
> her explosion, Disney (and Nickelodeon) have attempted to re-create 
> that mania with other young stars and starlets, but her success was
unprecedented.
>
> **Huh?  Oh hardly.  Maybe she took it to a new level,

Yes, that was my point. "Hannah Montana" took it to a new level -- a level
no one could have predicted.

**disagree.  They got exactly what they hoped for.  So did she.  She
aggressively pursued the role.



> **And did you forget the Olsen twins? Hollywood has a long history of 
> mastering the tween market.

The Olsen Twins were not the stars of a cheap, basic-cable kidcom.

***well, no they became the stars of a mass of cheap made for video tween
movies.

They were stars of a top-rated, long-running network television sitcom, 

**technicaly they were the *Star* as they shared the role, right?...  :)

**But they were not the stars, they had supporting roles.

and then they transitioned into other media. Look, I'm not saying there was
never a child star before "Hannah Montana." I'm saying that based on what
her show was, there was no reason to believe she'd become an international
superstar selling out concerts in minutes.

**what else could they have been intending?  Seriously, that was the natural
result of the concept.

> and when she auditioned for "Hannah Montana," I can only imagine that 
> everyone thought, "Aw, a cute little Disney sitcom for kids." I 
> highly, highly doubt anyone expected a worldwide phenomenon to be born.
>
> **Oh please, Disney I would imagine was hoping for exactly that.

Well, duh. "Hoping for" and "expecting" are not the same thing.

**pft.  If the show was designed for it, and that was the desired goal, I
would have to say it was an expectation.


> **Perhaps.  Now though, we have everyone taking all the efforts to 
> find things to blame.  Blame Hollywood.  Blame Disney.  Blame the 
> divorce.  She is heading out of control, and all Billy Ray is doing 
> here is being whiney when he enabled it.

Couldn't the same be said for any parent with a kid who is on the wrong
path? If my son started getting into drugs and alcohol, despite my best
efforts to help him avoid those traps, one could always look back at choices
I made and say I "enabled" it.

** Sorry, details matter.   Did you smoke pot in front of him?  Did he got
the pot from you?  If you took him and introduced him to the drug scene?
Would you then be able to hide behind excuses?

**they allowed her into that world and even joined her in enjoying it.
When you directly enable it, you have a different situation.
 


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