Re: UNCIVIL UNIONS
"Karl Swenson" <[email protected]>
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Yea, but you know what? I am bored with wealth envy. Some of those rich people worked hard for their wealth and deserve the right to have it and pass it on to their families. Many of those rich invest a lot into their communities and into businesses creating jobs. Even the useless rich, the media and sports starts actually stimulate their industries. All the maney may sit in a pile in thei pocket, but it still helps drive other prosperity. And the other factoid is that if you raise their rates, you gain a year or two (if that long) before they either are not rich any more, or they find ways to move it offshore/hide it. At that point, no one wins. Either way the money is gone from the tax rolls and gone from the economy. Rich people spend and hire and buy stuff. Until they are either no longer rich or they are hiding their wealth. Unless you also use that short term gain along with strong spending cuts. Then in two years maybe you can survive without it. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Richard Towry Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 6:21 PM To: 'DADL (off topic)' Subject: Re: [DADL-OT] UNCIVIL UNIONS I hear you, but when the rich pay more, they're still rich. Their pain is minimal. What is being asked of the middle class is basically to give up being middle class. As for that bottom 46%, pay them a taxable wage and they'll pay more taxes. When they only have 1% of the wealth, there's not much there to tax. _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Karl Swenson Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 8:16 PM To: 'DADL (off topic)' Subject: Re: [DADL-OT] UNCIVIL UNIONS But the point is that the rich are being pointed at as not paying enough. Since all the cuts they pay more. I would like one liberal talking head to admit that. And maybe that having a system where 46% pay nothing is not necessarily good either. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Richard Towry Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 6:14 PM To: 'DADL (off topic)' Subject: Re: [DADL-OT] UNCIVIL UNIONS Exit reply: When the top 10% owns over 70% of the wealth, and the bottom 40% own way less than 1%, it's inevitable. Pity the rich. _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Karl Swenson Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 7:28 PM To: 'DADL (off topic)' Subject: Re: [DADL-OT] UNCIVIL UNIONS Exit question: Isnt it fun that after all the tax cuts, the rich pay more in taxes now than ever before? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Richard Towry Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 4:56 PM To: 'DADL (off topic)' Subject: Re: [DADL-OT] UNCIVIL UNIONS Replace all of my "OR"s with "AND"s then. I don't blame the CEOs for everything, but to blame the unions for everything is just as short-sighted. Painting all of them with the same sloppy brush because they want health care and the ability to pay their mortgage, while insisting the millionaires and billionaires are somehow above it all, just doesn't work. And when the ever-increasing concentrated wealth in America is constantly insulated from the tax base, requiring the rest of us make up for it, the connection is obvious. --rich (a greedy, parasitic, possibly unskilled union member) _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Karl Swenson Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 6:29 PM To: 'DADL (off topic)' Subject: Re: [DADL-OT] UNCIVIL UNIONS Or.. The CEO increases the tax burden on what's left of the middle class by outsourcing most jobs overseas *because of increased demands by unions for pay wages which have destroyed the wage gap between skilled and unskilled labor, and unions refusal to share the burden of increasing health care costs*.. You can continue to blame the CEOs for everything, but the fact is that greedy parasitic unions share a load of blame. And again, what has this to do with Public Sector unions? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Richard Towry Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 4:04 PM To: 'DADL (off topic)' Subject: Re: [DADL-OT] UNCIVIL UNIONS And not only does the union steal the cookies, he wants more, and when the tax payer doesn't have any, he tells them to blame rich people. Or.. The CEO increases the tax burden on what's left of the middle class by outsourcing most jobs overseas for near slave wages (rewarding his ingenuity with another plate of cookies), takes advantage of loopholes and offshore accounts so his company pays little to no taxes (feasting on a crate of cookies now), pays millions to elect politicians to keep his taxes down so he fill his Olympic sized swimming pool with even more cookies, and finally takes billions in bailout money from the taxpayers and rewards himself with truckload of cookies dumped on his front lawn. And then, fat and happy, tells them to blame the unions for the cookie shortage. -- dadl-ot mailing list http://mail.thehood.us/mailman/listinfo/dadl-ot_thehood.us http://news.gmane.org/gmane.music.dadl.ot