Re: Catholic Church reverses course on bill to eliminate statute of limitations on sex abuse of minors
"Karl Swenson" <[email protected]>
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In the same way that justice requires the accuser, (or one acting on the accuser's behalf in the context of crime), bear the burden of proof, justice also requires a statute of limitations., . The above mentality perpetuates victimhood for those that really suffered abuse and ruins the lives of those falsely accused of abuse. >**the statute issue is complex, and I see the point of both sides. The problem is that some of the people with victim mentalities really are actual victims, and throttling their cases with a statute protects the abusers. As I said, it is complicated, and there should be a reasonable middle ground somewhere..< A middle ground between no statute of limitations and having a statute of limitations? That is a binary choice, with no middle ground possible. You can debate the time for a statute of limitations but that isn't what was being proposed. ***apologies, I missed that aspect. You are right there is no 'middle ground'. I think a reasonable statute makes sense. It is my opinion that the "system" does as much damage to the victims of abuse as the abuse itself. **I agree It foists this notion that it is the worst thing ever than can happen to a child and that a child has to be severely traumatized by abuse and is incapable of getting over it. I'm not minimizing abuse and if someone did it to my children I would take matters into my own hands. But the current attitude/systemic milieu regarding abuse elevates the abuse to the level of consuming its victim. Why do people never get over it? **I can testify to both sides on this. I *am* a victim of child sexual abuse. I got over it just fine. But I am not everyone, and my abuse, which was brief and mild, pales in comparison to the abuse that was suffered by someone I am very close to, who's abuse was severe and lengthy. She has *not* totally gotten over it, and likely never will. Though she is well adjusted and not fragile, she also has triggers that bring flash backs 30 something years later. **In fact, so do I, though I have not had one in several decades. The details matter in these case. **so the law should reflect a way for the real victims to address it (my second example cannot address it, her abuser is deceased) to help their healing, not to mention protecting potential victims. In my second example, she actually nearly killed the abuser to force him to stay away from her siblings. But she and her sister who was also abused are damaged and that cannot be undone. **As I said, these are complex issues. That said, you are absolutely right that the system encourages victims, and I will go forward to say that it enables victims as well as enabling false accusations. Rather than healing, a lot of cases, in my opinion, are people looking for a scapegrace and a meal ticket. I don't have the absolute answer but I'm quite sure that telling someone that abuse is something you never get over tends to set up a self-fulfilling prophecy. **not always. some people really do have abuse so deep that even when they do put it behind them, it may resurface. The human subconscious is devious. I think they need to be told that they *can* get over it, and they need to believe that the *should* get over it if they can. The danger, which I do not think you would disagree with, is that people are encouraged to *not* get over it by being told they cannot, or do not need to get over it. And worse, the people told they can excuse other issues because of the abuse. It becomes a way to absolve oneself from blame. **I called a local radio station once in one of these debates, and told the host about my abuse and how I got over it. He asked me how I got over it, and simply replied that I could be a victim all my life or I could live my life and not be a victim, and the choice for me was obvious. But that's just me. Telling people that that they never have to come to grips with it, (which is what eliminating a statute of limitations and saying charges can brought whenever an alleged victim feels up to it does), isn't helping people deal with the abuse; it is perpetuating their "victimness" and turning it into something that is part of the person as opposed to something that happened to them. **as I said, sometimes it is so deep that separation of the two is hard. But not impossible. Mike F. -- dadl-ot mailing list http://mail.thehood.us/mailman/listinfo/dadl-ot_thehood.us http://news.gmane.org/gmane.music.dadl.ot