Re: Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding...

Mike Findlay <[email protected]>
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It's not something I'm prepared to go to the mat over, but I don't think being 
required to provide reasonably satisfying proof of presidential evidence with 
the "best evidence" is nonsense.  I'm using the quotes because there was, 
(pretty much going away due to email and electronic forms of communication), 
something known as the best evidence rule in american jurisprudence.  Basically, 
a copy could not be admitted into evidence when the original existed and could 
be obtained.  There were exceptions to the best evidence rule that involved 
destroyed or lost documents but those could be exacting.  


To hold someone seeking the office as the presidency to the same "best evidence" 
rule isn't nonsense imo.  I do think the whole controversy was nonsense, but 
Obama bears a good deal of the blame for that considering that such "best 
evidence" was readily available. 


Of course there will always be nuts and kooks who even the best evidence won't 
satisfy, but it was nonsense for Obama to withhold the best evidence in an 
attempt to do a guilt by association number on the opposing party.  My thing 
with Trump on this was that he didn't care about the guilt by association, he 
was willing to call Obama on it and demand the best evidence, and good for him 
as far as that goes.

The birth certificate thing was a game and Trump got Obama to lay down his 
cards.  Continuing in the poker analogy, sometimes you can even lose a hand and 
consider it a win if you get your opponent to show you his cards.  It minimizes 
your opponents ability to bluff.    


Mike F.  





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From: Bruce Geerdes <[email protected]>
To: DADL (off topic) <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, April 27, 2011 12:26:32 PM
Subject: Re: [DADL-OT] Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding...


On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Karl Swenson<[email protected]> wrote:

I think Trump has proven that conservatives can gain traction by going
>strong

Even when "going strong" based on a bunch of nonsense?

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