Re: Um, about Paul Ryan

Nothing contradicts the Weekly Standard article, but glad to see you accept 
Foxnews as a source of truth.  You surprised me with that one.

Mike F. 




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From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
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Sent: Fri, April 29, 2011 3:30:22 PM
Subject: Re: [DADL-OT] Um, about Paul Ryan

Fox has a different take:


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/29/ryan-heckled-town-hall-meetings-wisconsin/



Rep. Paul Ryan, architect of a budget proposal that would revamp social 
safety-net programs, and other Republican lawmakers have continued to face 
heckling at town hall meetings this week, prompting at least one GOP aide to 
accusing liberal groups of orchestrating the disruptions.


"I think it's pretty clear," said Shawn Kelly, spokesman for Rep. Lou Barletta, 
R-Pa., "If you go to MoveOn's website, there's a whole page there on how to 
create anger about Medicare reform."
Barletta faced outbursts at two of his town hall meetings, leading police to 
remove hecklers.
Kelly called it "astroturfing," -- or disingenuous grassroots opposition 
organized by legislative opponents.
"I think that's ridiculous," said Lauren Weiner, a spokesman for Americans 
United for Change, a D.C.-based progressive group that has targeted several 
Republicans with TV ads and robo-calls. "The anger is real."



Weiner noted that the GOP-led House just approved the Ryan plan two weeks ago 
with many people still unaware about the details.
"We think the anger is going to grow," she said. "The more they learn about it, 
the angrier they're going to get."
The GOP plan envisions cutting government deficits by a total $6.2 trillion over 
the next decade. One of its most contentious provisions calls for eventually 
transforming Medicare into a voucher-like system in which private insurance 
plans, not the government, pay medical bills.  The plan would also cut social 
safety-net programs such as food stamps and Medicaid.The plan has drawn scorn 
from Democrats, including President Obama, who want wealthier Americans to pay 
higher taxes to help reduce the deficit.
Liberal groups haven't been shy about their intention to turn the town hall fury 
that inflamed the health care debate two summers ago against Republicans over 
their deficit-reduction plan.
In an email to members, and obtained by FoxNews.com, entitled "Payback time," 
MoveOn says the 2009 town halls will go down in the history of health care 
reform as a "key moment."
"Cable news played the clips over and over," the group wrote. "Now it's payback 
time."  

The email gives members the time and location of the town hall meetings, urging 
them to show up and let Republicans who voted for the Ryan plan know that their 
constituents "won't stand for it."
The email says the members should "be civil -- we don't need to yell to make our 
point" but adds not to let those Republicans "avoid taking responsibility" for 
their votes."
MoveOn did not return messages seeking comment.
"They're letting their members know about it. I think that's consistent with 
what progressive groups are doing," Weiner said. "Nowhere in there are they 
saying make a stink. Nowhere in there are they saying, 'Get thrown out.'"
At Ryan's fourth and final town hall meeting, in southeastern Wisconsin on 
Thursday, a small number of hecklers repeatedly interrupted him.
One person shouted, "You lie!" as Ryan talked about the future of Medicare. 
Another shouted, "What are you hiding?" when Ryan presented a graph about his 
budget plan.
But overall, most of the 850 people who showed up to the high school auditorium 
seemed to be Ryan supporters. They applauded when he talked about opening up 
American lands for oil drilling. And they gave Ryan a 30-second standing 
ovation, as if to send a message to the hecklers, after one person thanked him 
for taking a leadership role in Congress.
Ryan acknowledged the hecklers' right to speak. He said he understood he made 
himself a target by putting forth a substantive plan that his opponents could 
use as a weapon against him.
"My hope is that we will stop rewarding the politicians who keeps making empty 
promises to voters and start rewarding politicians who speak honestly with 
them," he said.
Ryan and other Republican House members have gone back to their districts over 
the Easter recess to explain to constituents how the plan would work. Congress 
reconvenes Monday.
Most of the audiences have seemed to back Ryan, hardly a surprise in an area 
where the seven-term congressman won his past few elections with more than 60 
percent of the vote. Opponents generally voiced their opinions civilly, but Ryan 
did face booing in Kenosha on Tuesday along with the vocal hecklers Thursday.
At one point in Greenfield, Ryan asked for a show of hands from those over the 
age of 55. When more than half the attendees raised their hands, Ryan said 
people their age wouldn't see their Medicare benefits affected.
"What about mine?" one man shouted.
"You're bigger than that, come on," Ryan said, chiding him for his interruption.





Thom
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http://www.cafepress.com/Thomwade
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Sent: Fri, Apr 29, 2011 3:23 pm
Subject: Re: [DADL-OT] Um, about Paul Ryan


>I think you meant *one* other.  The truth hurts don't it'..


Truth hurts.  The Weekly Standard doesn't qualify as truth.  So I am fine.  :)




Thom
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http://www.cafepress.com/Thomwade
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