Re: This is what scares me more than anything

"Karl Swenson" <[email protected]>
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Did I say any of that?  

If I am being charged and taxed to drive on those roads, and said money pays
to upkeep those roads, then yes, you're damn right I object to someone
driving on them for free because of his choice in cars.

And since when is Canada a hostile nation, considering we buy most of our
oil from them?

We import more oil from NON opec sources than from Opec, and Canada is the
highest single country (by nearly 2 to 1).  This is for both crude and
refined petroleum.  Mexico is nearly tied with the highest Opec Country,
Saudi Arabia.  

You might want to check your facts a bit before you trot out the evil
foreign oil meme.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Paul Christian Glenn
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 12:37 PM
To: DADL (off topic)
Subject: Re: [DADL-OT] This is what scares me more than anything

Such a strange sense of fairness you possess. Are you really so bloodyminded
that you cant bear the thought of anyone else driving on *your* roads? Even
when that other person is spending money to help make the air you breathe
cleaner, the gas you buy less expensive, and your dependence on hostile
nations less severe? So strange to me.



On May 6, 2011, at 1:34 PM, "Karl Swenson" <[email protected]> wrote:

> " If we need to raise transportation revenue, just raise gas tax 
> rather than try to implement mile tax."
> 
> Once again, punishing bad behavior?
> 
> That, is all I am suggesting is "preachy.  Owning a gasoline car is 
> not bad behavior.
> 
> Bottom line, I already pay a consumption tax on my gas.  I accept that.
> But, why should my gas taxes make the roads safer for the electric 
> vehicle who uses the same roads while he is also getting an annual tax
incentive?
> 
> Sorry, no.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On Behalf Of Bruce Geerdes
> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 10:34 AM
> To: DADL (off topic)
> Subject: Re: [DADL-OT] This is what scares me more than anything
> 
> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Mike Findlay
> <[email protected]>wrote:
> 
>> Even if I disagree with his, (to me), cavalier attitude about more 
>> govt spending.
>> 
> 
> Oh now, I was only being cavalier about it if my conditions were met:
> 
> 1. All transportation taxes are being used to maintain infrastructure 2.
> There is not enough revenue from said taxes to maintain infrastructure
> 
> There is plenty of wiggle room in there to argue there *is* enough 
> revenue, it's just being used inefficiently. ;)
> 
> My main points (lost in all the preachiness evidently) were:
> 
> (a) I want transportation to pay for transportation. I don't want govt 
> to subsidize transportation from other areas, and I don't want 
> transportation to subsidize other areas.
> 
> (b) If we need to raise transportation revenue, just raise gas tax 
> rather than try to implement mile tax.
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