Being the resident gun nut, (at least I think so)

http://www.usnews.com/news/washington-whispers/articles/2011/05/11/the-gun-that-killed-osama-bin-laden-revealed



Interesting that the US used a German weapon.  That being said; I own and have 
fired multiple times, and HK93 which is a semi-auto, longer, and older variant 
upon which that gun is based, and HK makes a fantastic bun.  Having fired a 
friend's AR-15, (the civilian version of the M-16/M-4), the HK is a far superior 
weapon.  


Mike F.  




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From: Karl Swenson <[email protected]>
To: DADL (off topic) <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 10:59:06 AM
Subject: Re: [DADL-OT] The Tragedy of Sarah Palin

I think they should leverage her appeal as much as they can in that role.
She should be the chair of the RNC.

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Behalf Of Johne Cook
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 8:47 AM
To: DADL (off topic)
Subject: Re: [DADL-OT] The Tragedy of Sarah Palin

I'm nodding over here. So do you think her greatest role may be as a
political gadfly, pushing change not from within office, but from without?

Johne Cook
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On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Mike Findlay
<[email protected]>wrote:

> What two interviews is he referring to?  I'm guessing one is Couric 
> and fair enough, (although it was really one question - she comes of 
> pretty well in the rest of the interview - which of course no one 
> remembers anymore).  But is he referring to the Charles Gibson one 
> with the Bush Doctrine question?  No one knew the answer to that and 
> it turned out Gibson didn't even know it - there was no formulated 
> Bush Doctrine and different people described it different ways.
>
> This is a classic example of how the media created a false narrative 
> in an all out effort to destroy her.  I have a hard time blaming 
> anyone for not being ready to deal with the savagery brought to bear 
> on her by the media.
>
>
> That said I think the article makes some fair points about how her 
> reaction was human, (imo understandably so), and I agree that she 
> probably has no future as an elected official.  However, I am struck 
> by Limbaugh's maxim to the effect of:
> the extent to which the left/media attack someone is a reflection of 
> their fear of that person.  The continuing vitriol with which she is 
> met far outstrips the influence/power that someone as shallow, stupid, 
> evil, etc. as she is accused of being should merit.  She drives them 
> nuts and inexplicable so.
>
>
> Having just finished Breitbart's book I'm re-inclined to say "Go Sarah 
> Go!", (to be distinguished from Run, Sarah, Run).
>
>
> Mike F.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Peter Chattaway <petert-LOVM4QxV+tDq6eQxt3vRmLDks+cytr/[email protected]>
> To: Daniel Amos off-topic listserver <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 10:03:57 AM
> Subject: [DADL-OT] The Tragedy of Sarah Palin
>
> Note: Douthat writes this as one who once recommended Palin for the 
> vice-presidency, shortly before McCain went that route:
>
> http://www.theatlantic.com/personal/archive/2008/08/my-pick-for-veep/5
> 5512/
>
> - - -
>
> http://douthat.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/05/11/the-tragedy-of-sarah-palin
> /
>
> by Ross Douthat
> May 11, 2011, 6:10 pm
>
> Josh Green has a great piece in the latest Atlantic on the Sarah Palin 
> who might have been - Palin the reformist governor of Alaska, that is, 
> rather than Palin the spotlight-chasing, media-feuding avatar of 
> right-wing identity politics that we've come to know since the 2008 
> election. The Alaskan Palin fought corruption within her own party, 
> attacked the nexus of government and big business, avoided polarizing 
> feuds and cut successful bipartisan deals; in the process, Green 
> notes, "she succeeded to a remarkable extent in settling, at least for 
> a time, what had seemed insoluble problems, in the process putting 
> Alaska on a trajectory to financial well-being." This was the Palin 
> that I liked from afar, before John McCain elevated her to national 
> prominence: The charismatic pro-life working mom who was also a 
> good-government reformer capable of thinking outside the ideological 
> box. (Imagine Mitch Daniels crossed with Michelle Bachmann - in a good 
> way.) And it's a Palin who was swallowed up, almost immediately, by 
> the national culture war, which made her both a right-wing icon and a 
> left-wing hate figure almost instantaneously, and effectively erased 
> her more interesting and complicated past.
>
> Ruminating on Green's piece, and Palin's post-2008 trajectory, John 
> Podhoretz suggests that she has no one but herself to blame:
>
>    The fault here lay not with her attackers but within her. She 
> embarrassed herself in two interviews, and decided the blame lay not 
> with her own ill-preparedness but with the media that had come after 
> her. Understandably enraged by the misogynistic and practically 
> psychotic attacks on her, she came to embrace her status as a kind of 
> martyr for the social-conservative views that had not been the truly 
> distinguishing features of her meteoric political career up to that 
> moment.
>
> I agree completely: Palin was caricatured viciously, but in response 
> she decided to essentially become the caricature, giving her enemies 
> exactly the kind of Spiro Agnew-in-heels performance they expected, 
> and then chasing celebrity in destructive (if lucrative) ways once the 
> initial firestorm around her subsided.
> The only thing that can be said in her defense is that her choices, 
> while misguided, have been very, very human. Consider: If you were 
> bounced from obscurity to national prominence and immediately found 
> yourself attacked from every angle imaginable - the personal, the 
> political, and everywhere in between - to whom would you instinctively 
> turn to for advice and counsel? To the elite Republicans who seemed to 
> disdain you from the beginning? To the McCain strategists who sent you 
> out as an attack dog and then blamed you for their own missteps and 
> misjudgments? To the establishment media mavens who never gave you a 
> fair shake? Or would you turn instead to the various conservative 
> commentators, activists, radio hosts and bloggers who made it their 
> business to champion you as the second coming of Ronald Reagan, to 
> defend you from every attack (fair and unfair alike), to spin your 
> blunders as successes and your gaffes as wisdom, and to generally 
> insist that you could do no wrong?
>
> We know how Palin answered that question. She has been ill-served, to 
> put it mildly, by her "you're great, you're perfect, don't change" 
> admirers; she would have been far better off taking advice from some 
> of her more constructive critics instead. But listening to one's 
> critics is hard; listening to the people who stood by you when you 
> were in the crucible is far more natural and understandable. And that 
> all-too-human tendency, as much as anything else, explains why we've 
> ended up with a Sarah Palin who sounds more like, well, a right-wing 
> talk-radio host than the promising politician she once was.
>
>
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