Re: Being a jerk is not a crime
Lance McLain <lance-X3DuywwxauBWk0Htik3J/[email protected]>
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Here is another one this week. http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2011/06/01/mta-officers-detain-man-for-taking-pictures/ Sent from my iPhone On Jun 4, 2011, at 12:21 PM, Mike Findlay <[email protected]> wrote: > There are way too many judges who are the same type of pig, (and I will keep > using pig to describe these types - they are relatively intelligent, they feed > on power like a pig feeds on slop, and they become filthy as they wallow in > their power), as way too many cops. They were prosecutors before they were > judges, indoctrinated and intoxicated with the power of the state. > > > These kind of things are happening way too often to be dismissed as isolated > incidents. While these cases may be rectified by a higher court that is a high > price for a citizen to have to pay to have his pre-existing rights vindicated. > And nothing is done to discourage the underlying swine-like behavior of the cop, > prosecutor and judge who validated the abuses in the first place. > > > Mike F. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Lance McLain <[email protected]> > To: DADL-OT (Mailing List) <[email protected]> > Sent: Fri, June 3, 2011 7:59:49 PM > Subject: [DADL-OT] Being a jerk is not a crime > > Being a jerk is not a crime. That's a lucky break for many of us, but it wasn't > enough to keep Nate Cox out of hot water. On a fine spring day in April, Cox was > driving down the street in Richmond, Virginia when he spied a member of the VCU > campus Police Department nearby. Cox grabbed a bullhorn and shouted, "Stop > harassing people, we pay your paychecks!" (Why did he have a bullhorn? That's an > interesting question, but orthogonal to the issues here.) > > Officer S.W. Kelley—the target of the taunt—jumped in his car, gave chase and > pulled Cox over. When Cox asked why, Kelley told him, "You looked like you were > a little distracted when you were driving." Kelley wrote up a charge of > obstructing justice -- which is an odd thing to write someone up for if you're > concerned that he's not keeping his eyes on the road. Cox asked how he had > obstructed justice. Kelley replied that Cox "distracted me from doing my job." > > Cox demanded to speak with Kelley's supervisor. When the supervisor arrived, he > and Cox had a frank exchange of views, and Kelley issued a new citation, for > disorderly conduct. The supervisor told Cox that yelling at Kelley through a > bullhorn was disorderly conduct. Cox, who also had a camera with him, posted a > video of the incident online. You can find it at > www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y85wzcIYYg—or just Google "the state vs. Nate Cox." > > If you watch the clip, you might come away with the impression that Cox acted > like an obnoxious punk. How? He said something that wasn't nice to a policeman, > and he said it loudly. And as Kelley testified, "his attitude and the way he > went about carrying himself" were on the sassy side—though there's no law > requiring citizens to display cringing submission in the presence of a > policeman, either. > > Now, none of us is a mind reader. But it seems fair to wonder whether Kelley > would have written Cox up if Cox had bellowed something more flattering to the > ego, such as: "Thanks for keeping our streets safe, Officer!" > > If the answer is no, then it looks as though Cox received a fine and a suspended > jail sentence simply for expressing an opinion the government doesn't like. They > do that sort of thing—in places like Cuba and North Korea. We're not supposed to > do it in America. > > But suppose the answer is yes. Suppose Cox had been given a summons for > distracting Officer Kelley with high-decibel flattery. Does yelling at a cop as > you're driving by meet the standard for disorderly conduct? > > Not hardly. Virginia law specifies that disorderly conduct "shall not be deemed > to include the utterance or display of any words." Further, it must have "a > direct tendency to cause acts of violence by the person … at whom … such conduct > was directed." And there is a whole string of cases in which the courts have > found that people who said things much worse to police officers than Cox did had > a First Amendment right to do so. In one, Ford v. City of Newport News, the > accused "was so loud and boisterous that apartment dwellers in a nearby building > came out on their porch and asked if the officers needed help." Yet the court > found no basis for a disorderly-conduct charge. > > Then there is City of Houston v. Hill, in which Raymond Wayne Hill started > yelling at two Houston cops during an incident in 1982. "Why don't you pick on > someone your own size?" he hollered. One of the officers asked, "[A]re you > interrupting me in my official capacity as a Houston police officer?" Hill shot > back, "Yes, why don't you pick on somebody my size?" The officers took him up on > the suggestion and arrested Hill for violating a city ordinance prohibiting > "intentionally interrupt[ing] a city policeman … by verbal challenge during an > investigation." > > This, the Supreme Court said, was wrong: "The freedom of individuals verbally to > oppose or challenge police action without thereby risking arrest is one of the > principal characteristics by which we distinguish a free nation from a police > state," the court ruled. (By poetic coincidence, one of the officers in the Hill > case was named Kelley.) Time and again, the courts also have said police > officers should "exercise a higher degree of restraint" than the average > citizen, even in response to so-called fighting words. > > Yet despite all this, a couple of weeks ago Nate Cox was found guilty. > > Earlier in the proceedings, Cox's lawyer had made a motion to dismiss the case. > Richmond Judge Robert Pustilnik was unpersuaded. "Based on the content of the > statement, your client was trying to be a jerk, and create trouble in a > situation which had nothing to do with him, in which he had no business. Motion > is denied." > > Pustilnik is not what anyone would call a sworn enemy of the First Amendment. > Back in December, he struck down the city of Richmond's new noise ordinance as > unconstitutional, on the grounds that it was overly broad and that it > discriminated in favor of religious utterances, which it exempted. > > But this case, Pustilnik said during the trial, "is not a First Amendment > situation. This is not some free-speech rights. This is a person who was … > trying to aggravate an officer and incite something … for absolutely no reason." > Cox has appealed. Five bucks says he'll win. Charles Dickens may have been right > when his Mr. Bumble called the law "a ass—a idiot." But there's nothing in it > that says you can't act like one. > > A. Barton Hinkle is a columnist at the Richmond Times-Dispatch. This article > originally appeared at the Richmond Times-Dispatch. > > > Sent from my iPhone > -- > dadl-ot mailing list > http://mail.thehood.us/mailman/listinfo/dadl-ot_thehood.us > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.music.dadl.ot > -- > dadl-ot mailing list > http://mail.thehood.us/mailman/listinfo/dadl-ot_thehood.us > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.music.dadl.ot -- dadl-ot mailing list http://mail.thehood.us/mailman/listinfo/dadl-ot_thehood.us http://news.gmane.org/gmane.music.dadl.ot