Re: Mental energy

The Voice Of Objective Truth <vox-TPv+D/[email protected]> Thu, 9 Jun 2011 18:20:39 -0400
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Of course the oddity with fast/prepared food in Ontario is that there
is no PST on food less than $4, and they carried that over to the
provincial portion of HST because all the food places, and especially
the coffee places (Tim Hortons and Starbucks) protested and had
petitions at every store.


On 6/9/11, Peter T. Chattaway <petert-LOVM4QxV+tDq6eQxt3vRmLDks+cytr/[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Jun 2011, The Voice Of Objective Truth wrote:
>> Ontario HST is 13%, but we have more exemptions on the 8% provincial
>> portion than BC.
>
> See, now, the "exemptions" thing is just weird.  I look at my grocery bill
> and I see that some items have the 12% HST, but then I see that a few
> items have the 5% "HST".  Why not just keep the GST and PST and apply the
> PST to a lot more things?
>
> Then again, I still remember how shocked I was when I visited Ontario in
> 1985 and discovered that y'all charged PST for fast food over there.  We
> didn't in BC, but when GST came along a few years later and the feds began
> taxing fast food too, I figured it was because Ontario had set the
> precedent.  So I've sometimes wondered if implementing the HST was less of
> a big deal in Ontario because you applied the PST to more things anyway,
> meaning you were already paying 13% for more things anyway.
>
> And oh, how fascinating, when I visited an A&A Records store in Calgary or
> Edmonton back in 1988 (towards the end of that year I spent at a Bible
> school in Saskatchewan) and realized that *none* of the music there had
> any tax on it -- because Alberta doesn't have PST at all.  (And, of
> course, at the time, the GST hadn't been invented yet.)
>
>> Overall, I'd say the implementation was better in Ontario than in BC,
>> including what things to exclude and first year rebates.
>
> Here in BC, there was also a huge, huge kerfuffle over it because it was
> felt that our premier had sprung the HST on us without any warning; in
> fact, if I'm not mistaken, in the most recent election (only a year or so
> before the HST was introduced), he had said the HST wasn't on the table.
> So he ended up resigning, and now we have a new premier, and fairly soon
> we'll have a referendum on whether or not to repeal the HST ... but it's
> going to confuse many people, because a "Yes" vote on the referendum does
> *not* mean "Yes to HST", it means "Yes to *repealing* HST", etc.  They
> might as well have us use a butterfly ballot or something.
>
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