Re: 50 Watt Bass Amps..just some thoughts.

Steve Molk <[email protected]> Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:50:16 -0800 (PST)
Newsgroups gmane.music.equipment.bass
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I know all about Crown, In fact the "Last band" had one. It worked OK. But then so did the cheap 8 Ch Kustom powered mixer that the Jazz/Swing had too.  

Besids, I'm not buying anything yet.

,,,,And I am an Engineer at my day job. I have put bandmates amps through my lab. Not a one even comes close to what they claim.Even Crown.

You likly know this,  but AC RMS power is the same power it would take to produce the same amount of heat (or work) that a given DC voltage and Current would produce. (I-squair R heating)

Now if we want to go peak to peak at a zillion percent harmonic distortion you will get that 1 or 2 grand they claim, But lets shoot a sign wave at say 400hz and stop turning it up at say .1% distortion and .....the 2000 watts goes down to 75W RMS. I just think it's total false advertising or at the very liest a gross decption. I have yet to see a musical instrument amp reproduce anything even close to a squair wave, either. (Certinly not OP AMP quality that we use in industrial controls)

My point is if a guy or gal dosn't have an engineering background they can sure get lead down the garden path but quick by the clains of these SOBs. 

I'm not much for government involvment in anything, but this is one place I wish some standardized testing should be implmented. 

LAter
Steve   


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>From: mark monillas <[email protected]>
>To: [email protected]
>Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 6:05:33 PM
>Subject: Re: [Bass Place] 50 Watt Bass Amps..just some thoughts.
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>your lookin at the wrong power amps.. trust me!
>Crown is where you need to put your money. 
>they are rated below what their capable of putting out. 
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>Yo Victa, whatsoever you do, remember this here. You can't hold no groove, If you ain't got no pocket !
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>--- On Wed, 11/11/09, Steve Molk <bassmansince62@ yahoo.com> wrote:
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>From: Steve Molk <bassmansince62@ yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: [Bass Place] 50 Watt Bass Amps..just some thoughts.
>To: bassplace@yahoogrou ps.com
>Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 2:28 PM
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>The Blackface Fender Bassman only has 2-6L6s which puts it well under 50 watts, but then the seales Cabinet and 2 12" Jensons kinda helped it out a bit.
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>>And this wattage thing is a lot of BS these days. I have been looking for a power amp for our PA. They say 1000 Watts but when you get down to it it comes out less then 100 watts per Chanel at 8 Ohms. Why advertise it as a what we called a "full gallon" back in my Ham Radio Days when it is more like a half pint?  
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>>From: edackbass <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
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>>To: bassplace@yahoogrou ps.com
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>>Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 12:06:14 PM
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>>Subject: [Bass Place] 50 Watt Bass Amps..just some thoughts.
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>>Fellow bangers,
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>>Perhaps my attack is too light, but I can't possibly do a small gig with a 50 watt amp. I don't know how you guys do it. Is it just a patch cable that makes some noise? Is there a super compressor out there capeale of boosting and cutting miracles? Help a brother out with some feedback.
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>>My understanding is that Wattage doesn't always reflect how loud an amp is. Some amp manufacturers rate wattage off the lower point of the soundwave, while others rate off the higher points of the soundwave. 
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>>While certainly within a range that can be considered 50 watts, there is a noticeable variance. What do you guys think? 
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>>Mr Chairman, I yeild the remainder of my time for the distinguished gentlemen...
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