Re: Replacement options for 15" custom ported cab?

"JohnL" <[email protected]> Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:56:09 -0000
Newsgroups gmane.music.equipment.bass
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How the heck did you get Hartke to even give you a price on a new driver? (do you know Mr. Larry Hartke Personally??) Whenever I talked to them or any authorized distributor, I'm told they will ONLY do one for one replacements (you send them a "damaged one", they will send you a replacement and charge you a flat rate exchange fee which varies on the model- they are pretty good in "stretching" to cover if slightly out of warranty but will not even show "mercy" if years out- plus their "turn-around" is ridiculous- heck I could never even get them to give me a part number?).

After much "social engineering" I recently found (this week) that I could purchase a new 15" 400 watt, 8 ohm, Bugera "Hard Attack" Aluminum bass speaker: Part#: X77-61500-52066 $89 plus shipping

Or

10" 240 watt, 8 ohm,  Bugera "Hard Attack" Aluminum bass speaker: Part#: X77-61000-02056 $69 plus shipping

Or

18" 1000 watt, 8 ohm,  Bugera "Hard Attack" Aluminum bass speaker: Part#: X77-61800-52072 $159 plus shipping

They are all "Stamped Basket" frames and weigh about as much as Hartke's

(please DON'T tell them I sent ya... it took multiple emails to and from Behringer support to give me this information and scouring the web only led me to finding complete/loaded Behringer cabs for sale)

Ryan Timmel
Full Compass
http://www.fullcompass.com
9770 Silicon PRAIRIE Pkwy
Madison, WI 53593-8442
1-800-356-5844 Ext -1182
[email protected]

Now here is my dilemma, 
Recone my "CAST" (warm bass punch in your balls but heavy as hell) Eminence 15"?

Try out a Bugera 15" Aluminum (LOVE the sound of Aluminum cones but usually need several to equal the same "punch in the balls")
Or
Try one of the super lightweight/efficient "CAST" Neo 15's (will it be as warm/punchy and have the "Transient Response" I'm looking for?)

Looking for opinions here folks, the more interjection the better (but no to JBL/Altecs/Fane/PEAVY- already tried them and not for me... although never tried the coveted "GUASS"...)

Thanks in advance,

Johnny (AmPIG)




--- In [email protected], "JohnWest9" <johnwest9@...> wrote:
>
> Why not just call Hartke and replace the 15's with an XL15? No longer a one for one swap though they do run about $180 ea. I'm in the same sort of fix with an ols Sunn 215 ported extension cab that I have yet to address. I should talk, I know! Good luck.
> 
> --- In [email protected], "JohnL" <john_lapietra@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Ok fellow Bass-Heads,
> > 
> > I had to play one of these outdoor gigs (for like 30,000 crazy bikers)
> > non covered stage... Well figures it rained- my Hartke Cabs were covered
> > in plastic but my extension Bass Cab (Custom built by myself) for the
> > drummer got soaked and it shredded to pieces by the end of the show.  I
> > generally don't care much for 15" because the "attack" sounds
> > slow/sloppy to me (don't get me wrong, I love the warmth of a JBL or
> > Altec- they just don't have the Transient Attack of 10's or a Hartke
> > 15") The Speaker that now needs a recone (or trash it) is an 8 ohm
> > 500watt Eminence PS15c (Same speakers made for Carvin before they went
> > to cheap stamped basket 15's - which is all they use now)- it was very
> > beefy all cast from much like an EVM or EVX 15" (only a bit more
> > efficient) and it sounded really warm, punchy, and tight (and being a
> > tone-freak, I'm pretty fussy) Anyhow I could get it reconed for about
> > $75 plus shipping, but I was thinking of trying one the Modern all cast
> > "Neo" Bass Drivers that are both Beefy in power handling and extremely
> > light (like 1/4 the weight) I can score an awesome deal (close to $100)
> > on one of these:
> > 
> > http://www.eminence-speaker.com/pdf/kappalite-3015lf.pdf
> > <http://www.eminence-speaker.com/pdf/kappalite-3015lf.pdf>
> > 
> > but I'm not sure how they sound? (but there were very positive reviews
> > from users- but mostly in regard to Sound Reinforcement Apps)  The only
> > "Neos" I've personally heard were 4x12 guitar cabs and they sounded a
> > but thin- especially being in sealed enclosures.. Has anyone had any
> > experience using these new Neos for Bass Guitar apps?  There are lots of
> > others out there, but some are quite pricey (hate to blow a wad for
> > something that I will not be happy with..)
> > 
> > Any thoughts/suggestions?  Thanks much in advance,
> > 
> > Johnny (AmPIG)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>




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