Re: Re: interpertation of levels and time parameters

jim michaels <gymmichaels-/[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.music.equipment.kawai.k5
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Thanks Fabio. That table of times is very helpful.  

I really love my K5. Yet some how, I feel compelled to create something. 

Jim




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From: somethingkillingyou <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tue, November 30, 2010 7:52:01 PM
Subject: [k5synth] Re: interpertation of levels and time parameters

  
well... then > this < should be of some help... it's not exactly what you asked 
for, but it's a starting point... saves you some time with envelopes/lfo 
times... for amplitude values, you have to check for yourself... you may want to 
use a vst audio analyzer...

anyway using a noise gate (vst or the real thing) with your k5 and k5m will 
definitely solve 'floor noise' problems in non-playing parts... instead, the 
poor SNR produces a particular sound, that I actually think it's part of these 
old synths' fashion! of course a noise gate won't eliminate the noise that gets 
summed with the signal, but in the mix you won't notice that too much at all... 
unless you use your k5 for piano piece music (?!?)...

besides my K5, I also have a K1m, a K4r and a K3... noise-wise, the K5 is the 
worst one, the K1 being a close second, because 8-bit samples are noisy and have 
poor dynamic resolution... and it is k1's strongest sonic quality!!! lots of 
character and actually produces some mellotronic and (...breathy) vocal sounds 
very well...

all kawai synths (except maybe the old analogs and the k5000) suffer from bad 
SNR, but they're cool anyway, and they're perfectly usable and have been used in 
professional recordings of course I think... only that musicians/studios won't 
tell you they did, because kawai = cheap...
you just have to use some extra gear (or vst) to have more hi-fi quality when 
needed.


Fabio

--- In [email protected], jim michaels <gymmichaels@...> wrote:
>
> Now that I think about it, I did buy them around '87. 
> 
> I want to emulate it because I am fascinated by additive synth, Fourier 
> analysis, etc. Also the sound quality is not the best on these and I want use 
> some of these sounds on a CD. 
> 
> 
> Longer term, the direction I am going on is to emulate it so that I understand 

> why the sounds sound the way they do. (understanding: best way to trap humans) 

> Once understood and emulated, then I plan to branch off and extend. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> The most keeping-it-real answer: I just want too.  ;)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: somethingkillingyou somethingkillingyou@...
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Tue, November 30, 2010 1:10:10 PM
> Subject: [k5synth] Re: interpertation of levels and time parameters
> 
> 
> actually, only 23 years old...
> 
> why do you want to emulate the k5 when you have 2 of them?
> 
> --- In [email protected], jim michaels gymmichaels@ wrote:
> >
> > Greetings fellow K5'ers
> > 
> > About a year ago I wrote asking about patches etc because I was experimenting 
>
> > with a software simulation of K5.  I got a ways along but it doesn't sound 
> >quite 
> >
> > right.  And I'm even more impressed by what my 30 yr old K5 and K5m are able 
>to 
>
> >
> > achieve.  Even with careful coding a PC is considerably slower than a K5. 
> > 
> > 
> > None the less, back at it again. It's an obsession. So...
> > 
> > I experimented with various ways of interpreting levels of levels of 
>harmonics, 
>
> >
> > parameters in envelopes as linear and various exponential factors.  I think 
>the 
>
> >
> > the levels of harmonics are linear and the levels in evelopes are db-ish. 
> > 
> > 
> > Can anyone share the interpretations the parameters. 
> > 
> > Best regards.
> > 
> > Jim
> >
>
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