What to do about multiple pcgs/collections of combis

In answer to your question, Tricky Guy, I'll try to explain for 
everyone.  Many of us have multiple collections of pcgs.  With only 2 
banks available for programs (C and D; F is reserved for MOSS) and 3 
for combis  (C, D, and F - yes combis can go here), you have to make 
choices.  I have 9 of my own combi collections plus Chemistry 1 & 2, 
and Reincarnation.  That's 12 pcgs that I have to contend with and 
only 3 banks available.  Many other users who have all my sets and 
Karma Lab's have to deal with the same issue.  So, you are not 
alone.  However, what you are missing is a "Bank Management" 
routine.  No one can use all sounds, all banks etc. at the same 
time.  So you learn how to swap/substitute/overwrite banks.

This requires one to have folders of named/tagged pcgs on a computer 
hard drive, plus a backup copy on 3.5 floppy disk.  I have my 
collections stored this way and each pcg has its own floppy for 
transfer to my Karma. Regardless of what I have where, I never ever 
replace Korg's factory presets. This really messes things up, 
especially for the programs because these are used by the third party 
developers - Paul, Scott and myself.

The trick is to continue to "Open" the pcg in disk mode so that you 
can see the bank destination.  So that you don't overwrite something 
unintentionally, you then "change" the bank destination before 
hitting "OK".  The Basic Guide spells out how to do this in the Disk 
Mode section.

Now, anyone reluctant to do this, is stuck with the factory banks in 
A, B, and E (and of course G for GM in the programs).  So, my advice 
is to develop your own routine(s) for Bank Management.  Hope that 
helps.
Cheers,
Eric, EJ2 Sounds http://www.freewebs.com/ejs2/ 


--- In [email protected], Tricky Guy <tricky_g2003@...> wrote:
>
> Hi eric
>    
>   
> thanks for the email.
>    
>   I'm still not 100% clear on the combis.  Because I can only load 
combis into Banks  d and f and I already have bank d filled with 
Chemistry I & II and half of bank f filled with reincarnation, were i 
to purchase your set of combis, i wouldn't be able to load them 
without replacing either chemistry or reincarnation right?  so I 
would never be able to access your combis and the 
chemistry/reincarnation combis in the same session
>    
>   
> EJ2 - Double EJ Projects <doubleejprojects@...> wrote:
>           Hi Tricky,
> You should have my reply to your email by now, but I'll just add a 
> few ideas here as well.
> 
> Anyone who has more than a few combi collections for the Karma 
needs 
> to develop a PCG and bank management routine. 
> 
> First and foremost is the practice of ALWAYS backing up your work, 
> edits, etc. on a regular basis. After every work session, I do 
> exactly. Some of us, including me, had to learn the lesson of 
lostand 
> gone forever sounds the hard way. And ALWAYS back up your work or 
> 3rd party collections not only to floppy disk, but store them in 
> named folders within a "Karma" folder on your computer hard drive.
> 
> Next, learn to swap/substitute, overwrite pcgs by continuing 
> to "open" them till you can see what bank they're destined to. You 
> can change this direction. Don't forget that if you have backed up 
> PCGs to disk, you can always reload them.
> 
> Never, ever overwrite factory programs or combis. The best 3rd 
party 
> developers use the factory programs within their combis, so 
> overwriting these will result in weird sounds. There are ONLY 2 
> locations that you can drop 3rd party or your own program banks 
into: 
> C and D. Don't put them anywhere else. As for EXB MOSS programs, 
the 
> will only load to bank F. Now, for combis banks, you should load 
> them ONLY to C, D, or F (yes, non-MOSS combis can go here too).
> 
> Having said all that, you really need to be careful loading 3rd 
party 
> GEs and 3rd party drum kits. Make absolutely sure you do not 
> overwrite the factory presets or you'll end up with a mess.
> 
> Hope that helps for now, folks; and if you haven't registered over 
at 
> Karma Lab Forums, http://www.karma-lab.com/forum/index.php?s= you 
owe 
> it to yourself and your Karma to do so asap.
> 
> Cheers,
> Eric, EJ2 Sounds - http://www.freewebs.com/ejs2/ 
> 
> --- In [email protected], Tricky Guy <tricky_g2003@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all
> > 
> > I have a question. I already have the Chemistry I & II and 
> Reincarnation combi sets loaded into my Karma (using all of Bank D 
> and half of Bank F). If I were to purchase any of the EJ2 combi 
> collections how would i install them without losing my other combi 
> sets... or would I have to swap them out each time I wanted to use 
> them?
> > 
> > thanks
> > 
> > EJ2 - Double EJ Projects <doubleejprojects@> wrote:
> > Hi Wayne (and others following this thread)
> > Thanks for mentioning EJ2 Combi Collections for Karma. You are 
> > correct that I have completed a few sets of fully KARMA-fied 
combis 
> > for various EXB expansion boards, as well as other dedicated 
> > collections that have been designed using only the factory 
presets 
> > where no EXB is required. For those who are not aware of my work, 
> > here is a link to previews of my collections 
> > http://2ej2.tripod.com/id1.html
> > 
> > From my Karma Combi Gallery, there is "MOSSTER" for EXB MOSS 
> > and "TRANZFER" for EXB09 Trance Attack. In my opinion these two 
> > expansions from Korg are the best available. EXB04 Dance Extreme 
> and 
> > EXB05 Vintage Archives are good, but the sounds of the former two 
I 
> > mentioned provide much better electro-tech in-your-face sounds. 
In 
> > fact, I believe some of these sounds have made their way to the 
> > various EXis developed for Korg's flagship OASYS, albeit with a 
far 
> > superior sound engine.
> > 
> > Just a side note about EXB04's combis - I have completely 
revoiced 
> > all 128 of these using only Karma's factory presets so that users 
> do 
> > not require EXB04 expansion board. I have made that collection 
> > available as a freebie to every new EJ2 client. 
> > 
> > Anyway, thanks again, Wayne, for mentioning my material. I've 
been 
> > meaniing to pop my head into this discussion, so your post lead 
> right 
> > into that.
> > 
> > As for Karma Lab's "Chemistry" and "Reincarnaton", I highly 
> recommend 
> > these collections. They are fantastic. To be sure, you can be 
> > confident with collections from EJ2 and Karma Lab. In my opinion, 
> > the other 3rd party Karma material is not in the same league. In 
> > fact, if you take the time to search the history of posts here 
(if 
> > you have the energy), you'll find a few threads confirming what I 
> > have just said. Stick with Karma Lab or EJ2 if you want high 
> quality 
> > fully KARMA-fied combi collections.
> > Cheers,
> > Eric (KKY Moderator)
> > ==============================================================
> > http://2ej2.tripod.com/index.html
> > ==============================================================
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], "Wayne Thompson" <waytho2003@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi, 
> > > I have this EXB and several others. Definately check out karma-
> lab 
> > and 
> > > listen to the samples of Chemistry and Reincarnation - these 
suit 
> > my 
> > > tastes really well but one must judge for themselves. However, 
I 
> > think 
> > > they thend to use factory banks and not EXBs. Without 
researching 
> > > (just can't dredge all this up from memory) 
> > > 
> > > I believe Eric at EJ2 productions http://2ej2.tripod.com/ has 
> done 
> > some 
> > > KARMAfication of some of the EXB boards and "TIMO" has even 
done 
> > some 
> > > for the MOSS EXB (group download section?)
> > > 
> > > Hope that helps,
> > > lotsa fun!
> > > Wayne/Seattle
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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