Re: "FM" Synthesis - 2 KARMAs

If you do decide to sell your Karma, sell the boards separately.  
You'll get more that way, especially the MOSS.  However, you can 
still keep the red Karma and get the M3-M. 

I do recommend that you spend more than a few minutes audition the 
M3.  Make sure you go when it's not busy and take a decent pair of 
headphones.

Korg has discontinued the Karma and they are no longer developing for 
it.  In addition, it is becoming increasingly difficult to find new 
EXBs for it.  However, Karma Lab has announced a new 64 combi 
collection for it which will be available this Monday, March 17.
http://www.karma-lab.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11669

Now, just because something is developed for the OASYS doesn't 
necessarily mean it will trickle down to the M3.  So, don't expect 
any MOD-7 implementation for the M3 any time soon, if ever.  Just the 
same, I think Korg do intend to produce expansion instruments for the 
M3 via USB flash. At least that is how I understand it. When and what 
they will be is anyone's guess.  You know Korg.  They don't make 
announcements unless and until they everything almost ready to go.

You can make your own MOSS programs and combis, but it's not easy.  
Go to Korg Forums for support on this.
http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewforum.php?
f=15&sid=ddcfd062570d7f72abc4edeb4a415e5e

I have a KARMA-fied collection of 62 combis for MOSS called MOSSTER.
Go here
http://www.freewebs.com/ejs2/korgkarmasounds.htm
and scroll down.  There's a link to some MP3 demos in that frame as 
well.

Good luck with your decision.
Cheers,
Eric



--- In [email protected], "Rayla Julia  Trainer baldasarre" 
<biskitjj@...> wrote:
>
> Yamaha SY77 I know 808 State used that board. 
> Oh yeah I didn't want to make this a Gear Lust.  I'm just trying to 
> get a certain sound, and use the sounds together.
> 
> I have to get find some  way to use my other Karma  Trion exb 
boards, 
> because I want to use those sounds with my other karma/ triton 
sounds.
> 
> I don't know if the M3 has something similar to the  Sounds on EXb 
> boards for Karma Triton.  I haven't been able to get to the store 
and 
> check it out.  
> If I sold my Karma I'd only get maybe $900 if i'm lucky, proably 
$750 
> for it because I have the Moss and the Boards.
> 
> That isn't even half the money for an M3,   It's really not an 
> option.  Plus as I read the sounds can't be transfer from the Karma 
1 
> ot the m3 /karma2 .
> 
> I love my Karma 1 mooron monster, be it old. Or anything. I won't 
> sell it.
> 
> Your saying MOD-7 is  FM synthesis and beyond, has been developed 
for 
> the OASYS. 
> 
> Well maybe they will develop something like that for the M3?
> 
> Or maybe make something close to that  with the Karma  1.
> 
> 
> I know I still have much to discover with just Karma 1.
> 
> One thing I never understood is what make the Moss board so 
Speacail?
> 
> I have a Moss board and I never really understood how use it.  Can 
I 
> make my own sounds with it? 
> 
>  Good old ebay..my effects unit is toast on arrival.  Yuck. 
>  Maybe it sounds odd, but I'm a guitarist playing a  synth.  I  
have 
> a knack for not programing my Karma it to get different sound I 
just 
> plug it into various effects units.  
> 
> 
> So that said maybe I could learn more how to program the karma to 
get 
> what I need.  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> The Guitarist... 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "Bob S." <tttsystems@> wrote:
> >
> > The other way to go is with an actual Yamaha SY-77 (keyboard) or 
TG-
> 77 (module).....I sold my SY-77 about a year ago for $300USD and 
they 
> are going for less sometimes on Ebay....I bought a TG-77 for 
$125USD 
> and they are currently between $150 and $250USD on Ebay....and as 
you 
> know (to keep on-topic), these modules can be triggered by the 
Karma 
> for some great FM & bell/ring type sounds.....
> > 
> > Bob
> > El Segundo, CA
> > 
> > 
> >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   From: EJ2 - Double EJ Projects 
> >   To: [email protected] 
> >   Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 8:19 AM
> >   Subject: [korgkarma] Re: "FM" Synthesis - 2 KARMAs
> > 
> > 
> >   Greetings all,
> >   I realize purchasing Korg's flagship OASYS is not on the radar 
> for 
> >   many folks here, nevertheless, Korg's VPM expansion EXi for 
OASYS 
> >   called MOD-7 can handle all DX7 files and more. This EXi is 
miles 
> >   beyond any FM synthesis. Here is a link to KLF's blurb on it
> >   http://www.karma-lab.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10269
> > 
> >   Next, save yourself the bother of getting an extra red Karma. 
> That 
> >   would be a bit redundant. You far better strategy would be to 
> sell 
> >   your maroon monster and get an M3 or keep your Karma and get 
the 
> M3-M 
> >   module. The KARMA 2 technology on board is the same as in the 
> >   powerful OASYS. Also, the real time controls on all M3s (module 
> >   included) can match up with the OASYS version as well. Where 
the 
> M3 
> >   and OASYS differ relates to all the extra programs, IFX (12 vs 
> 5), 
> >   and the expansion potential of the OASYS.
> > 
> >   Hope that helps.
> >   Cheers,
> >   Eric
> > 
> >   --- In [email protected], Wayne Thompson <waytho2003@> 
> >   wrote:
> >   >
> >   > Hi,
> >   > From what I know KORG has not made something similar to the 
> DX7. 
> >   Even the "FM" type modulations on the Radias (and on the -- 
ehem -
> - 
> >   Virus TIs) don't truly do the same thing as I understand it. 
> >   > 
> >   > Sounds like 2 KARMAs would be awesome! You really like the 
> >   Future Loops EXB, huh(?)., I have it but don't get much out of 
it.
> >   > 
> >   > Cheers!
> >   > Wayne
> >   > 
> >   > Greg Krouse <gkrouse@> wrote:
> >   > Sounds like gear envy to me....
> >   > At 10:16 AM 3/13/2008, you wrote:
> >   > 
> >   > >I just got a NEW Amp for my Karma, its been 5 years I've 
been 
> >   playing
> >   > >thru the same 20 watt bass..no more of that, I got a 60 watt
> >   > >keyboard amp now. It sounds terrific!
> >   > >
> >   > >Instead of buying a NEW keyboard for myself. Plus I don't 
have 
> >   $2,500
> >   > >or even $1000.
> >   > >For under a thousand could get another new / used Karma And 
put
> >   > >My extra Vintage Exb board and my Future loops exb board in 
the
> >   > >second one, since my first has 2 others. M
> >   > >
> >   > >Good idea?
> >   > >
> >   > >All I would need after that is a much needed sampler. Then I 
> STOP!
> >   > >No GEAR lust just trying to get sounds I like in a cheaper 
way.
> >   > >
> >   > >Soft synths just don't have it for me.
> >   > >
> >   > >The Vintage exb board is the only sound for Old Analogue 
> sounds 
> >   that
> >   > >I truely love! The basssses are so big and Nice!
> >   > >
> >   > >I what I like is those Old FM basses sounds, yes I actually 
> figured
> >   > >out what makes that sound, I've been looking for years for 
it, 
> that
> >   > >Joey Beltram sound. It's either use the Vintage exb board or 
> get an
> >   > >old Yamaha FM synth.
> >   > >
> >   > >Do any of u know if Korg ever make A FM synth Like the 
yamaha 
> DX 7?
> >   > >
> >   > >
> >   > 
> >   > 
> >   > 
> >   > 
> >   > 
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