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yeah but 0.6ms added to say 4 ms can make a huge difference. it is also a v=
ery wide stretch (feeling wise) from a real guitar sound through an amp (i.=
e. 2 metres away) to a synth sound with the same latency. not sure what th=
e reason is for this, but i have experienced it a lot of times, be it in th=
e studio (depending on the music even 4ms on the headphones become unplayab=
le), with a guitar to midi system or some softsynths with a keyboard contro=
ller.
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> You don't need a hexaphonic pickup with Jam Origin's software.=20
> Please check the site for details.
> The demo works well on Win and Mac. You will get a sense of how it will w=
ork.
>=20
> And FWIW, adding 0.6ms of latency... Sound travels 1 foot in 1 millisecon=
d. So, 0.6ms of latency is equivalent to an additional 18 centimeters dista=
nce from your speakers. Negligible...
> It's best to keep those figures in mind when thinking about optimising la=
tency across a system.
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> On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 10:05 AM [email protected] <mailto:li=
[email protected]> [midiguitar] <[email protected] <mai=
lto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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> Thank you very much for this info.
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> I dont have any hardware problems.
> My music server is AMD 24cores/32GBRam=20
> Problem is just I dont run windows or mac anymore. It is all Linux and it=
handles all my devices and controllers flawlessly.. A real pleasure for a =
change moving from the continuous windows headaches..
>=20
> What I am really interested in is to try this on an ipad or android if po=
ssible, the latter probably not supported. I then have to get a very low la=
tency audio connection with the server from the ipad and that can only be a=
udio in on my Motu stagebox. That will add another 0.6ms to speakers.
>=20
> I will see how well it will run under emulation on Linux
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> I cant figure if I need a GK-3 for this, or does it work out of the jack =
?
> How is the pitch to glitch ?=20
> Any of that.?
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> ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>, <ms=
sngr@...> wrote :
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> I ditched all my hardware because any modern computer will beat all hardw=
are controllers with this:
>=20
> https://www.jamorigin.com/ <https://www.jamorigin.com/>
> you need to study this before you spend any further effort at working on =
your axon
>=20
> I dumped my legacy Roland midi guitar hardware on Reverb...
>=20
> this will replace it if you have a decent modern pc running win 10, at ve=
ry little comparative cost...
>=20
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> On 2/3/2019 11:44 PM, liebrecht@... <mailto:liebrecht@...> [midiguitar] w=
rote:
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>> Also:
>> The firmware on my Axon seems ancient.
>> It shows 2.08 when booting up.
>>=20
>> I found online firmware Version 5.32 !!
>> I dont know if that is legitimate or maybe an intentional clickbait viru=
s.
>>=20
>> Anyone know what the last firmware version number for the Axon was ?
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yeah but 0.6ms added to say 4 ms can make a huge difference. it is also a v=
ery wide stretch (feeling wise) from a real guitar sound through an amp (i.=
e. 2 metres away) to a synth sound with the same latency. not sure wh=
at the reason is for this, but i have experienced it a lot of times, be it =
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te for details.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"line-height: 1.2=
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em;" class=3D"">Thank you very much for this info.</div><div style=3D"line-=
height: 1.22em;" class=3D""><br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""><=
/div><div style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">I dont have any hardwar=
e problems.</div><div style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">My music se=
rver is AMD 24cores/32GBRam<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </sp=
an><br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""></div><div style=3D"line-h=
eight: 1.22em;" class=3D"">Problem is just I dont run windows or mac anymor=
e. It is all Linux and it handles all my devices and controllers flawlessly=
... A real pleasure for a change moving from the continuous windows headache=
s..<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""></div><div style=3D"line-h=
eight: 1.22em;" class=3D""><br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""></=
div><div style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">What I am really interes=
ted in is to try this on an ipad or android if possible, the latter probabl=
y not supported. I then have to get a very low latency audio connection wit=
h the server from the ipad and that can only be audio in on my Motu stagebo=
x. That will add another 0.6ms to speakers.<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em=
;" class=3D""></div><div style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""><br styl=
e=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""></div><div style=3D"line-height: 1.22=
em;" class=3D"">I will see how well it will run under emulation=
on Linux<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""></div><div style=3D"=
line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""><br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=
=3D""></div><div style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">I cant figure if=
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I ditched all my hardware because any modern computer will beat all hardwar=
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er effort at working on your axon</p><p style=3D"line-height: 1.22em; margi=
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on Reverb...<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""></p><p style=3D"l=
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1.22em;" class=3D"">The firmware on my Axon seems ancient.</div><div style=
=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">It shows 2.08 when booting up.</div><d=
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