RE: Shuffling and unshuffling (was Re: ID3 tag quest ion)

"Moser, Robert L. II" <[email protected]> Tue, 18 Feb 2003 10:23:14 -0600
Newsgroups gmane.music.equipment.slimp3.dev
Message-ID <8F76CAB2F77CE542B4B6CCEDD9B03CCB01B2D51A@vhapalexce.v21.med.va.gov>
How about as an option?  (default not to reshuffle at the end of the
playlist)

Robert

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dean blackketter [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 7:42 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Shuffling and unshuffling (was Re: [slimp3-dev] ID3 tag
> question)
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> Hold the phone.  I stopped and thought about this for a second.  (I=20=20
> guess my espresso is finally kicking in...)
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> If we reshuffle automatically this means that if the user is=20
> browsing=20=20
> their shuffled Now Playing playlist to see what song is up=20
> next towards=20=20
> the end of the list it will change out from under them.  Not good.  =
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> (Not to mention the chance that the same song will be played=20
> twice in a=20=20
> row, an annoying prospect.)
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> Upon further thought, I wonder exactly what problem we're trying to=20=20
> solve here.  If it's shuffled, it's shuffled.  If you want to=20=20
> reshuffle, then press the SHUFFLE button twice.  The user=20
> should always=20=20
> be in control.
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> -dean
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> On Tuesday, February 18, 2003, at 07:36  AM, dean blackketter wrote:
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> > Fine by me.
> >
> > On Tuesday, February 18, 2003, at 06:15  AM, Robert Moser II wrote:
> >
> >> I like it, I'll probably put that in once I get off work today.
> >>
> >> At 01:39 PM 2/18/2003 +0100, Eivind Kj=F8rstad wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 17 Feb 2003, Dave Sherohman wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> 2)  As it stands, reordering a shuffled playlist requires you to
> >>>> unshuffle and reshuffle it, which means that, if you just let the
> >>>> player run forever, you'll keep hearing your songs in the same=20=20
> >>>> order,
> >>>> over and over again, unless manual action is taken.  A=20
> 'continuous
> >>>> shuffle' would not repeat itself so readily.
> >>>
> >>> True. But the current system has other advantages. How do you feel
> >>> about
> >>> "fixing" this 2) by the following (pseudocode)
> >>>
> >>> on end_of_playlist:
> >>>         if repeat=3Don and shuffle=3Don:
> >>>                 unshuffle
> >>>                 reshuffle
> >>>
> >>> This way you would not get the "shuffled, but fixed"=20
> effect that you
> >>> mention above, but we would maintain the advantage of=20
> being able to=20=20
> >>> do
> >>> forward and back in a shuffled playlist and have that work as
> >>> expected.
> >>>
> >>> (on my cd-player both "forward" and "back" selects a new=20
> *random*=20=20
> >>> song
> >>> when in shuffle mode, this is okay for forward, but I=20
> consider it a
> >>> bug
> >>> for "back". When I press "back" it's because I want to=20
> hear the last
> >>> song once more.)
> >>>
> >>> Sincerely,
> >>>         Eivind Kj=F8rstad
> >>
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