Re: The Guardian (UK): Boards of Canada: Infe rno review – after 13 years away, their prodigal retu rn is a big disappointment
David Newman <[email protected]> Tue, 2 Jun 2026 19:32:53 +0100
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--Apple-Mail=_FBA03633-A236-4046-878E-D862E722A146 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 The vowel, timing bending on father and son is very interesting! Best wishes David Newman www.audiobulb.com <http://www.audiobulb.com/> : exploratory music www.audiomoves.com <http://www.audiomoves.com/> : ambient music sync = specialist www.volume-objects.com <http://www.volume-objects.com/> : abstract = ambience :: broken space On 2 Jun 2026, at 17:59, Alan Lucas <[email protected]> wrote: On the contrary, I=E2=80=99m quite happy to hear all manner of opinions. I like a lot of the album so far, but Father And Son sounds like = something that The Books would have done back around 2005. Same with The = Word Becomes Flesh, but that one is slightly less bothersome to me for = whatever reason.=20 On Tue, Jun 2, 2026 at 10:37=E2=80=AFAM Jordan Meinecke = <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > No one wants to hear your negative opinions >=20 >> On Jun 1, 2026, at 5:58=E2=80=AFPM, Theo Philip <[email protected] = <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>=20 >> =EF=BB=BF >=20 >> I think I agree with the reviewer. BoC's drum beats are just so = boring. The songs I really like of theirs, happen to be the ones without = drums, Memory Death and Deep Time on Inferno, Bocuma and The Color of = The Fire on music has the right to children. Compare to a contemporary = like Amon Tobin, and this is for me what would make their tracks more = enjoyable to listen to.=20 >>=20 >> On Mon, 1 Jun 2026 at 22:03, Zheanna Murray <[email protected] = <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> Have had a chance to spin it a few times now front to back; it = certainly sounds more "modern" than any prior BOC stuff, in my opinion - = not that that's a bad thing at all. It still feels very BOC, and while = it doesn't feel like anything particularly revolutionary (can anyone say = they truly expected that from them to begin with?), it's a pleasure to = listen to and I'm certain it will grow on me even more over time.=20 >>>=20 >>> Everyone seems to be enamored with Father And Son but there's = something about those vocal slices that is unsettling, and I don't just = mean their subject matter. Several tracks (Hydrogen Helium Lithium = Leviathan and Arena Americanada especially) remind me a bit of the = catalogue stuff made for Bruton Music in the 80s....shades of Mark = Shreeve's masterwork "Mephisto", for example, or Francis Monkman's = "Perpetual Motion" off the Energism album. Love that bold sound. >>>=20 >>> Z >>>=20 >>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2026 at 1:42=E2=80=AFPM Rjyan Kidwell = <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> That said, >>>> The Crowded House-adjacent guitar this time around is their coolest = deployment of guitar ever imo and I would be psyched if there's any more = of that to come.=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Also the synthetic Clouddead flows in the super cutup vocals tracks = is a bold choice that works way better than I would have expected.=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> -rk >>>>=20 >>>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2026, 4:18 AM Rjyan Kidwell <[email protected] = <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> When I listened to bits and pieces of it while doing other things, = I didn't care for it at all. >>>>> Then today I ended up sitting down on a couch and listening to the = whole thing (on shuffle, by accident) without doing or focusing on = anything else and I had a real good time.=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> I think the increasing enshittification of everything tech, and = trashiness of everything about AI, has kinda called the whole "artist = must make PROGRESS" framing into question for me on a fundamental level. = At age 40 I prob would have been right there with ppl saying, "They've = added nothing/They've evolved none!" but at age 45 I'm actually really = genuinely glad that these two weirdos still get to live in a beautiful = place out in the highlands and make the exact sounds they want to make. = I don't think they need to invent a whole nother aesthetic or History of = The Nuum moment to be a net gain/good deal for the rest of the species.=20= >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> -rk >>>>>=20 >>>>> On Sat, May 30, 2026 at 7:40=E2=80=AFAM Elijah Fink = <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>> The album rules, review is rubbish >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> On Fri, 29 May 2026, 06:12 David Newman, <[email protected] = <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>> Just going to a listening party=E2=80=A6 with open ears and an = open mind =E2=80=A6. If it=E2=80=99s better than tomorrow=E2=80=99s = harvest I=E2=80=99m happy=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Best wishes >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> David Newman - shorter message sent from a mobile device =F0=9F=93= =B2 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> On 28 May 2026, at 21:00, Zombiefly <[email protected] = <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> =EF=BB=BF >>>>>>>> just heard it. >>>>>>>> the review is bang on. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> how disappointing >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> On Mon, 25 May 2026 at 23:55, steven richard price = <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Truly awful review.=20 >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> On Mon, 25 May 2026, 20:04 Seth Branum, <[email protected] = <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> BoC's religious/cult themes made him squeamish. =F0=9F=98=85 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 6:10=E2=80=AFAM Ren=C3=A9 Wilhelm = <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> ragebait >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 25 May 2026 at 15:05, Richard Barnett = <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> = wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> = https://www.theguardian.com/music/2026/may/23/boards-of-canada-inferno-rev= iew-after-13-years-away-their-prodigal-return-is-a-big-disappointment >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Barnett >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> not sent from an iDevice >>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------- >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> -- >> ~Theo Philip >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> --Apple-Mail=_FBA03633-A236-4046-878E-D862E722A146 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 <html aria-label=3D"message body"><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" = content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body = style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; = line-break: after-white-space;">The vowel, timing bending on father and = son is very interesting!<br id=3D"lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div> <meta charset=3D"UTF-8"><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, = 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: = none; overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: = after-white-space;"><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, = 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: = none; overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: = after-white-space;"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Best wishes</p><p = class=3D"MsoNormal">David Newman</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span = style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Helvetica Light", = sans-serif; color: rgb(11, 118, 160);"><a = href=3D"http://www.audiobulb.com/"><span style=3D"color: rgb(11, 118, = 160);">www.audiobulb.com</span></a> : </span><span = style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Helvetica Light", = sans-serif;">exploratory music</span><span style=3D"font-size: = 10pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span = style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Helvetica Light", = sans-serif; color: rgb(11, 118, 160);"><a = href=3D"http://www.audiomoves.com/"><span style=3D"color: rgb(11, 118, = 160);">www.audiomoves.com</span></a></span><span style=3D"font-size: = 10pt; font-family: "Helvetica Light", sans-serif;"> : = ambient music sync specialist</span><span style=3D"font-size: = 10pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span = style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Helvetica Light", = sans-serif; color: rgb(11, 118, 160);"><a = href=3D"http://www.volume-objects.com/"><span style=3D"color: rgb(11, = 118, 160);">www.volume-objects.com</span></a></span><span = style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Helvetica Light", = sans-serif;"> : abstract ambience :: broken = space</span></p></div></div></div> </div> <div><br><div>On 2 Jun 2026, at 17:59, Alan Lucas = <[email protected]> wrote:</div><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir=3D"auto">On the = contrary, I=E2=80=99m quite happy to hear all manner of = opinions.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I like a = lot of the album so far, but Father And Son sounds like something that = The Books would have done back around 2005. Same with The Word Becomes = Flesh, but that one is slightly less bothersome to me for whatever = reason. </div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br><div = class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container" dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr" = class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun 2, 2026 at 10:37=E2=80=AFAM Jordan = Meinecke <<a = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>> = wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px = 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid = rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div = dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">No one wants to hear your negative = opinions</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jun 1, = 2026, at 5:58=E2=80=AFPM, Theo Philip <<a = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" = target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>> = wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div = dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF</div></blockquote></div><div = dir=3D"auto"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">I= think I agree with the reviewer. BoC's drum beats are just so = boring. The songs I really like of theirs, happen to be the ones without = drums, Memory Death and Deep Time on Inferno, Bocuma and The Color of = The Fire on music has the right to children. Compare to a contemporary = like Amon Tobin, and this is for me what would make their tracks more = enjoyable to listen to. </div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div = dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, 1 Jun 2026 at 22:03, Zheanna = Murray <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" = target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>> = wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px = 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid = rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Have had a chance to = spin it a few times now front to back; it certainly sounds more "modern" = than any prior BOC stuff, in my opinion - not that that's a bad thing at = all. It still feels very BOC, and while it doesn't feel like anything = particularly revolutionary (can anyone say they truly expected that from = them to begin with?), it's a pleasure to listen to and I'm certain it = will grow on me even more over time. <div><br></div><div>Everyone = seems to be enamored with Father And Son but there's something about = those vocal slices that is unsettling, and I don't just mean their = subject matter. Several tracks (Hydrogen Helium Lithium Leviathan and = Arena Americanada especially) remind me a bit of the catalogue stuff = made for Bruton Music in the 80s....shades of Mark Shreeve's masterwork = "Mephisto", for example, or Francis Monkman's "Perpetual Motion" off the = Energism album. Love that bold = sound.</div><div><br></div><div>Z</div></div><br><div = class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jun = 1, 2026 at 1:42=E2=80=AFPM Rjyan Kidwell <<a = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" = target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote = class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px = solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">That = said,<div dir=3D"auto">The Crowded House-adjacent guitar this time = around is their coolest deployment of guitar ever imo and I would be = psyched if there's any more of that to come. </div><div = dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Also the synthetic Clouddead = flows in the super cutup vocals tracks is a bold choice that works way = better than I would have expected. </div><div = dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div = dir=3D"auto">-rk</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div = dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jun 1, 2026, 4:18 AM Rjyan = Kidwell <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" = target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote = class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px = solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">When I = listened to bits and pieces of it while doing other things, I didn't = care for it at all.<div>Then today I ended up sitting down on a couch = and listening to the whole thing (on shuffle, by accident) without doing = or focusing on anything else and I had a real good = time. </div><div><br>I think the increasing enshittification of = everything tech, and trashiness of everything about AI, has kinda called = the whole "artist must make PROGRESS" framing into question for me on a = fundamental level. At age 40 I prob would have been right there with ppl = saying, "They've added nothing/They've evolved none!" but at age 45 I'm = actually really genuinely glad that these two weirdos still get to live = in a beautiful place out in the highlands and make the exact sounds they = want to make. I don't think they need to invent a whole nother = aesthetic or History of The Nuum moment to be a net gain/good deal for = the rest of the = species. </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>-rk</div></div><br>= <div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, = May 30, 2026 at 7:40=E2=80=AFAM Elijah Fink <<a = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" rel=3D"noreferrer" = target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote = class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px = solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">The album = rules, review is rubbish</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div = dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, 29 May 2026, 06:12 David = Newman, <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" rel=3D"noreferrer" = target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>> = wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px = 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid = rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Just going to a = listening party=E2=80=A6 with open ears and an open mind =E2=80=A6. If = it=E2=80=99s better than tomorrow=E2=80=99s harvest I=E2=80=99m = happy <div><br = id=3D"m_-3072126643699566337m_-2512781088294948826m_-6851406460683774907m_= 194040298882962608m_4473043227417954994m_200966731321310408lineBreakAtBegi= nningOfSignature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Best = wishes</div><div><br></div>David Newman - shorter message sent from a = mobile device =F0=9F=93=B2</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote = type=3D"cite">On 28 May 2026, at 21:00, Zombiefly <<a = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" = target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>> = wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div = dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr"><span = style=3D"border-style:none;background:0% 0% repeat">just</span> heard = it.<div><span style=3D"border-style:none;background:0% 0% = repeat">the</span> review is bang on.</div><div><br></div><div>how = disappointing</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" = class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, 25 May 2026 at 23:55, steven richard price = <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" = target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote = class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px = solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Truly awful = review. </div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" = class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, 25 May 2026, 20:04 Seth Branum, <<a = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" = target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote = class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px = solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">BoC's = religious/cult themes made him = squeamish. =F0=9F=98=85<br><br></div><br><div = class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, May = 25, 2026 at 6:10=E2=80=AFAM Ren=C3=A9 Wilhelm <<a = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer = noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>> = wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px = 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid = rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div = class=3D"gmail_default" = style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">ragebait</div></div><br><= div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, = 25 May 2026 at 15:05, Richard Barnett <<a = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer = noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>> = wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px = 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid = rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><a = href=3D"https://www.theguardian.com/music/2026/may/23/boards-of-canada-inf= erno-review-after-13-years-away-their-prodigal-return-is-a-big-disappointm= ent" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" = target=3D"_blank">https://www.theguardian.com/music/2026/may/23/boards-of-= canada-inferno-review-after-13-years-away-their-prodigal-return-is-a-big-d= isappointment</a></div><div><br></div><span = class=3D"gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir=3D"ltr" = class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Richard = Barnett<br><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div> </blockquote></div> </blockquote></div> </blockquote></div> </blockquote></div><div><br clear=3D"all"></div><div><br></div><span = class=3D"gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir=3D"ltr" = class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"tahoma, = sans-serif" style=3D"font-family: tahoma, = sans-serif;">----------------------------------------</font><div><font = face=3D"tahoma, sans-serif" style=3D"font-family: tahoma, = sans-serif;"> not sent from an = iDevice</font></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><font = face=3D"tahoma, sans-serif" style=3D"font-family: tahoma, = sans-serif;">----------------------------------------</font></span><br></d= iv></div></div> </div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div> </blockquote></div> </blockquote></div> </blockquote></div> </blockquote></div><div><br clear=3D"all"></div><div><br></div><span = class=3D"gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir=3D"ltr" = class=3D"gmail_signature">~Theo Philip<div><a = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" = target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a></div></div> </div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div> </div></div><br></body></html>= --Apple-Mail=_FBA03633-A236-4046-878E-D862E722A146--