Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hmmmm

Vitor Rua <[email protected]> Tue, 30 Aug 2011 23:44:30 +0100
Newsgroups gmane.music.john-cage
Message-ID <[email protected]>
oh... I didn´t know that... I only saw what he said... but probably is  
like you said... after all he said many things that he said it´s him  
but it isn´t... when he said that hearing heoirca or pastoral of  
beethoven its always the same and sounds of trasfic always different  
it was russolo who said more or less that... and the definition of  
music that its atribute to varèse and cage repeat that music is  
organized sound is form russolo again... best and thanks for the  
info... vítor


On Aug 30, 2011, at 11:34 PM, Rob Haskins wrote:

> It might be that Cage said that on the documentary, Vitor, but  
> Andrew's right—the person who actually said it was Shizuko Yamamoto,  
> in response to a question Cage asked on whether he had to be strict  
> about observing the macrobiotic diet. Cage can be forgiven for  
> forgetting who said what in 1990 (which is when I believe that  
> documentary was made).
> Rob
>
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 5:19 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have not seen the Greenaway doc in years so I don't recall the  
> scene. But it might have been a slip on his part, or he was saying  
> Shizuko.
>
> In any case, I heard the story several times over the years, and the  
> story is about Yamamoto.
>
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vitor Rua <[email protected]>
> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 21:48:15
> To: Andrew Culver<[email protected]>
> Cc: john saylor<[email protected]>; Silence<[email protected] 
> >
> Subject: [silence] Re: Re: Re: Hmmmm
>
> hello,
>
> he said (John cage) that it was suzuki his master that said:  "when
> you're with friends, you can have
> >
> >> a potato." it´s on the peter greenway documentary...
>
> best
> vítor rua
>
>
> On Aug 30, 2011, at 6:09 PM, Andrew Culver wrote:
>
> > Hi John
> >
> > I believe the potato quote paraphrases Shizuko Yamamoto
> >
> > On 29-Aug-11, at 10:47 AM, john saylor wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 19:05, Andrew Culver <[email protected]
> >> > wrote:
> >>> Birth of Jesse James (possibly the most famous outlaw in American
> >>> history):
> >>> Sept. 5, 1847
> >>> 65 years to the day before our friend.
> >>
> >> and 65 after:
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazr_Mohammed
> >>
> >> and ...
> >>
> >> --
> >> \js [http://or8.net/~johns/] : "when you're with friends, you can
> >> have
> >> a potato." -j.cage paraphrasing y.ono
> >>
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
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