Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 0'00" is a joke...

Dear Rob,

many thanks by your words.

of course its a composition !!!! AND A VERY VERY VERY GOOD ONE !!! ONE  
THAT WILL STAY AS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT OF THE HISTORY OF ART !!!

But its a WORK OF ART ... not a WORK OF MUSIC... the problem is that  
cage was a composer... but also a cooker (excelent) a philosopher  
(very good) and a VERY FUNNY GUY !!! VERY !!!

you are write that when he embraces the chance thing the definition of  
russolo apropriated by cage and varèse lost interest for  
him...although he use this definition forever...until he died...

when you say: "It's not conventionally musical" you are right... its  
not music at all ! its a very very good piece of ART... and its the  
most important conceptual musical composition ever write... but only  
CONCEPTUAL...

when cage writes to a trumpet plays 10 octaves higher than a trumpet  
can play... what do you think it is???... conceptual music!!!... and a  
very funny thing !!!

look: HUMOR ITS A VERY VERY GOOD THING !!!! VERY IMPORTANT !!! SOME  
ANTROPOCENTRIC IMPORTANT PEOPLE SAYS HUMOR IS ONLY BELONG TO HUMAN  
BEEINGS...

so whats the problem with humor after all?.............

Dear rob: I use your email to answer more to the other friends than to  
you: sorry...

many thanks to all

vitor rua


On 25 Oct 2011, at 19:40, Rob Haskins wrote:

> Sorry, I accidentally sent this only to wonderful Vitor:
>
> With all due respect to Vitor, I would call 0'00" a composition.  
> It's not conventionally musical, but its instructions (to perform a  
> disciplined action at the highest level of amplification before  
> feedback occurs) ensure that the piece is about the sounds produced.
>
> The concept of organized sound, for Cage, largely disappears once  
> Cage embraces chance operations. For at this point, any continuity  
> (read: organization) becomes acceptable (Lecture on Something).
>
> Sorry I can't write more on this at the moment.
>
> Best,
> Rob
>
> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Jim Flannery  
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> Tuesday, October 25, 2011, 11:08:00 AM, one wrote:
>
> > if you create organized sound performing 0`00``you are performing it
> > wrong !!!
>
> So when Cage performed the piece, he was doing it wrong?
>
> I think you've under-understood the score.
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Jim Flannery
>  [email protected]
>
>
>
>
>
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