Re: Re: Re: 0'00" is a joke...

dear matt,

On 25 Oct 2011, at 20:46, Matt Rogalsky wrote:

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> On 2011-10-25, at 3:27 PM, Vitor Rua wrote:
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>>> Also in the score:
>>> "The first performance was the writing of this manuscript"
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>> i think all the composers can say that of any piece thay right...  
>> or no?...
>>
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> No, because the act of creation of most compositions' scores is  
> usually not part of the composition's performance.

so its the same with this cage composition... or are you saying that  
this is not a "composition"??? I have said and write that to you to  
say what you are saying now to you to see the paradox!!! it was a  
"trick" of my part! sorry...
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>> and one conceptual piece that its not music... but paradoxical its  
>> a COMPOSITION FOR SURE !!
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>
> I don't think it's conceptual at all (in the sense of being a  
> "thought experiment" rather than a performable piece --

oh pleaseeeeeee... not even einstein will think that this composition  
must be performed... unless they perform on a warm whole or  
something...theres no DURATION !!!!!

> think of some of the more abstract Fluxus era compositions by La  
> Monte Young and others, for instance, which really are not really  
> performable in a concert hall sense).

I have performed almost all the pieces of the 1960 of lamont: "Sustain  
a sound for a long time" CAN BE PERFORMED !!! "Free a buterfly on the  
concert hall and follow his movements...the piece ends when you end to  
see the butterfly"... its possible and i have done it already !!! (but  
in my case something went wrong because the butterfly (unfortunatelly  
was dead and she fall in the floor... and i just put my foot on it to  
finished thepiece... it was a bad performance of me... but a  
performance!!
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> Rather, I think of it as a practical piece which Cage invented to  
> allow him to accomplish more with less, and it can be performed in  
> any manner of ways, many of which will have a definable beginning,  
> middle and end just like a lot of other compositions.

it has a beggining, middle and end???? in what world??? a warmhole  
world???... 0 seconds is zero seconds people !!!! zero !!!!! nothing  
of duration !!! this is discuting the sex of the angels...
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> Anyhow, it's definitely not a "one sentence" composition. There are  
> five sentences in the score which give quite specific direction how  
> to do (or not do) a performance.

it can be 2 TRILIONS OF SENTENCES ... BUT THAT DON´T CHANGE THAT ITS  
NOT A PERFORMABLE PIECE...

best regards and sorry the english

vitor rua
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> Signing off for now,
> Matt R