Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 0'00" is a joke...

i mean: "you are right" !!!!



On 25 Oct 2011, at 20:45, Vitor Rua wrote:

> Dear Rob,
>
> many thanks by your words.
>
> of course its a composition !!!! AND A VERY VERY VERY GOOD ONE !!!  
> ONE THAT WILL STAY AS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT OF THE HISTORY OF  
> ART !!!
>
> But its a WORK OF ART ... not a WORK OF MUSIC... the problem is that  
> cage was a composer... but also a cooker (excelent) a philosopher  
> (very good) and a VERY FUNNY GUY !!! VERY !!!
>
> you are write that when he embraces the chance thing the definition  
> of russolo apropriated by cage and varèse lost interest for  
> him...although he use this definition forever...until he died...
>
> when you say: "It's not conventionally musical" you are right... its  
> not music at all ! its a very very good piece of ART... and its the  
> most important conceptual musical composition ever write... but only  
> CONCEPTUAL...
>
> when cage writes to a trumpet plays 10 octaves higher than a trumpet  
> can play... what do you think it is???... conceptual music!!!... and  
> a very funny thing !!!
>
> look: HUMOR ITS A VERY VERY GOOD THING !!!! VERY IMPORTANT !!! SOME  
> ANTROPOCENTRIC IMPORTANT PEOPLE SAYS HUMOR IS ONLY BELONG TO HUMAN  
> BEEINGS...
>
> so whats the problem with humor after all?.............
>
> Dear rob: I use your email to answer more to the other friends than  
> to you: sorry...
>
> many thanks to all
>
> vitor rua
>
>
> On 25 Oct 2011, at 19:40, Rob Haskins wrote:
>
>> Sorry, I accidentally sent this only to wonderful Vitor:
>>
>> With all due respect to Vitor, I would call 0'00" a composition.  
>> It's not conventionally musical, but its instructions (to perform a  
>> disciplined action at the highest level of amplification before  
>> feedback occurs) ensure that the piece is about the sounds produced.
>>
>> The concept of organized sound, for Cage, largely disappears once  
>> Cage embraces chance operations. For at this point, any continuity  
>> (read: organization) becomes acceptable (Lecture on Something).
>>
>> Sorry I can't write more on this at the moment.
>>
>> Best,
>> Rob
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Jim Flannery  
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Tuesday, October 25, 2011, 11:08:00 AM, one wrote:
>>
>> > if you create organized sound performing 0`00``you are performing  
>> it
>> > wrong !!!
>>
>> So when Cage performed the piece, he was doing it wrong?
>>
>> I think you've under-understood the score.
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>>  Jim Flannery
>>  [email protected]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Rob Haskins, Ph.D.
>> Associate Professor and
>>      Coordinator, Graduate Studies
>> Department of Music, College of Liberal Arts
>> University of New Hampshire
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